I am referring to free will as the possibility that choices can be made contrary to the coupled quantum mechanical wave function associated with a human brain or other intelligent agent as entangled with the universe. The dictionary definition is unhelpful because it connects free will with deterministic systems, and it is easy (with a credit card) to extend a computing system with a true random number generator. I do think that is a distinction without a difference, and that also casts doubt on the utility of the concept of free will. If faking it can't be detected, we might as well not talk about a distinction. Turing test, etc.
On 6/15/20, 5:45 PM, "Friam on behalf of glen∉ℂ" <[email protected] on behalf of [email protected]> wrote: Well, you only said you could write an ABM. You didn't mention "conventionally call a serial computer". Given where you work, you might have been hypothesizing that you could write an ABM on some other kind of computer. But whatever, I already agreed that it wouldn't. I'll repeat that what's more interesting is whether it would *look* like it did ... whether it could *simulate* free will, which is the topic at hand. Again, I'm not talking about a different concept. I'm talking about this: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/freewill On 6/15/20 5:40 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Anyone that says an ABM can display Free Will, running on what we conventionally call a serial computer, is certainly talking about a different concept. - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
