The preoccupation with arguing over base ontological commitments reminds me
of the *existential detectives* and their nemesis in the movie *I <3
Huckabees*. Will demanding that the universe is determined, or almost as
random as can be, or simulatable move any other conjectured model forward? I
suspect that it has the effect of putting the discussion in a holding
pattern. In each case, we are making unknown claims as to what the universe
is, or at best wagering as to what we feel the universe will have turned out
to be in some obnoxiously absolute way. Neutered from a motivating
investigation and the development of a model, we may as well exclaim the
names of numbers at one another.



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