Hmm. Every third number in this apparently random sequence is even. Order? What's order? Nonrandomness?
On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 2:25 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > All, > > > > I feel like this relates to a discussion held during Nerd Hour at the end > of last Friday’s vfriam. I was arguing that given, say, a string of > numbers, and no information external to that string, that no AI could > detect “order” unless it already possessed a theory of what order is. I > found the discussion distressing because I thought the point was trivial > but all the smart people in the conversation were arguing against me. > > > > n > > > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > [email protected] > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Jochen Fromm > *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2020 3:15 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] New ways of understanding the world > > > > The success of Google's deep learning program in predicting protein > folding is impressive. Maybe that is what he meant. > > https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03348-4 > > > > -J. > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Steve Smith <[email protected]> > > Date: 11/30/20 21:55 (GMT+01:00) > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] New ways of understanding the world > > > > Or a "model of nothing fit to everything we know: useful or merely wrong?" > > On 11/30/20 1:41 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: > > Chris Anderson, the editor in chief of Wired, asks if a computer can find > a theory of everything merely by learning from data. Unfortunately most > deep learning models are like a black box which delivers good results but > is hard to understand. Would a theory of everything be a theory of nothing? > It reminds me of Russell Standish's book "theory of nothing". > > https://www.wired.com/2008/06/pb-theory/ > > > > -J. > > > > > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > -- Frank Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Research: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2
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