Jon writes: < Localizing water to the molecule and then abstracting it to its objective form is to bracket all that might be interesting about the fate of the thing localized, the abstraction being an abstraction from the universes unfolding. I wouldn't conclude that H20 has a will, but for me, it would be because we removed vitality from the description. >
Glen writes: < I think it's incomplete to say "perception" or "experience". It's loopy perception, feedbacks. And that implies that its calculation would involve some estimation of limits, convergence, fixed points, etc. And that's computationally distinct from the non-loopy percolation of water through soil. > Ok, a Tesla in full autopilot mode? Does it have free will? Marcus -----Original Message----- From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of jon zingale Sent: Friday, April 2, 2021 10:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Free Will in the Atlantic Localizing water to the molecule and then abstracting it to its objective form is to bracket all that might be interesting about the fate of the thing localized, the abstraction being an abstraction from the universes unfolding. I wouldn't conclude that H20 has a will, but for me, it would be because we removed vitality from the description. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/
