There is a preprint from t'Hooft where he suggests that Quantum Mechanics
emerges from vacuum fluctuations. It could be something in this direction.
https://arxiv.org/abs/2010.02019-J.
-------- Original message --------From: Jochen Fromm <[email protected]> Date:
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Interesting book. IMHO neither the weird rules of Quantum Mechanics nor the
Standard Model can be really fundamental. Why do we have 3 generations of
matter (electron, muon, tau & up/down, charm/strange, top/bottom quarks) and
not 1, 2 or 4? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeptonWhere do the strange rules
from Quantum Mechanics come from? It would be nice if the rules of Quantum
Mechanis would somehow emerge from waves propagating in the quantum
fluctuations of empty space. -J.-------- Original message --------From: Marcus
Daniels <[email protected]> Date: 4/9/21 20:17 (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday
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[FRIAM] Free Will in the Atlantic 't Hooft has been has a book on these
topics.[1] He has papers periodically like this one where he socializes the
idea in different ways. The argument in this paper is if there were fast
background variables, in quantum experiments like the double slit experiment,
it could explain how these probabilistic measurements occur, with only
deterministic drivers. He goes on to speculate that it may have
implications for modifications to the Standard Model at the highest energy
domains, such as the muon experiment Frank mentioned might be hinting at. It
is much easier for me to believe than 11 and 24 dimensional spaces, branes, and
all that. Perhaps that's what Jon is suggesting: Sure, I do have some sort
of agency (personality) that makes me favor some hypothesis over others, and
thus some kinds of evidence over others -- it is a preference for premises and
conclusions that aren't buried in layer after layer of math that could very
well be wrong. The deterministic story of entanglement -- the giant CA of
the universe -- seems to work. I can't help wonder if some people hate it
JUST because it does take away their understanding of what science is?[1]
https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007%2F978-3-319-41285-6-----Original
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Will in the AtlanticHa! OK. I'll try to read that. I read the abstract 4 times
and still don't know what I'm about to read. I read the introduction once and
still don't know what to expect. My next step is the Discussion, then the meat.
If you care to toss a bone, I'd appreciate it. But then again, you might be
rewarding me for being lazy.On 4/8/21 9:58 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:> >
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2010.02019.pdf >
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