Cool conversation about octopus. While not scientific, I really enjoyed the move “My Octopus Teacher”. Insightful and thought provoking.
On Sat, May 1, 2021 at 9:02 AM Prof David West <[email protected]> wrote: > Octopi probably do "see" the ground behind them. They have more neurons in > their skin than in their brain and the chroma-cells (forgot the technical > name) are bi-directional "camera and display." So one side "sees" and > transmits to opposing side for display. All without entering the central > nervous brain. > > davew > > > > On Fri, Apr 30, 2021, at 9:12 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > Octopus ground mimicry is the thing I cannot understand. How do you > copy > > what you are not looking at? > > > > n > > > > Nick Thompson > > [email protected] > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Prof David West > > Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 8:57 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [FRIAM] something serious from something silly > > > > A discussion of UFOs occupied some time in FRIAM today, including the > > observation that despite looking for "intelligent signals" ala SETI have > > failed. > > > > Made me think of octopi (& other cephalopods) that communicate with > > brilliant displays of rapidly changing color. We think that these > displays > > are more than reactive, that they are "intelligent communication." > Mostly, > > it seems to me, we infer this because we have a lot of context, including > > interacting octopi, but if all we had was the "signal" absent the > context, > > would we recognize it as "intelligent?" > > > > I am not phrasing the question very well, but if we had nothing except a > > 5-minute video of an octopus' surface changing color, would we be able to > > detect a hidden order or structure that would allow a reasonable > > determination that it originated from an intelligent species? > > > > davew > > > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe > > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > > > > > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > > > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >
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