Same problem, but the pattern matching of cephalopods is so extraordinarily precise that it’s much harder to think of an explanation. An octopus has a much more distributed nervous system so perhaps an explanation begins with the idea that it has eyes all over its arms. Nothing that I have read gives me any comfort for that idea. Another possibility is, of course, that it turns around, looks at the substrate, memorizes it, puts the pattern on its skin, and then arranges newly patterned body to correspond to the remembered pattern of the substrate. Lots of luck with that.
I don’t know why I am feeling so certain about things this morning Some times I wake up in the morning with the illusion that I actually know stuff. “He Never Falls Harder Than Falls From His Highest Horse”. Nick Dixxed that, also. Nick Thompson <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 9:18 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] something serious from something silly Do chameleons see what's under their tails? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Apr 30, 2021, 9:12 PM <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: Octopus ground mimicry is the thing I cannot understand. How do you copy what you are not looking at? n Nick Thompson [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -----Original Message----- From: Friam <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > On Behalf Of Prof David West Sent: Friday, April 30, 2021 8:57 PM To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: [FRIAM] something serious from something silly A discussion of UFOs occupied some time in FRIAM today, including the observation that despite looking for "intelligent signals" ala SETI have failed. Made me think of octopi (& other cephalopods) that communicate with brilliant displays of rapidly changing color. We think that these displays are more than reactive, that they are "intelligent communication." Mostly, it seems to me, we infer this because we have a lot of context, including interacting octopi, but if all we had was the "signal" absent the context, would we recognize it as "intelligent?" I am not phrasing the question very well, but if we had nothing except a 5-minute video of an octopus' surface changing color, would we be able to detect a hidden order or structure that would allow a reasonable determination that it originated from an intelligent species? davew - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam <http://bit.ly/virtualfriam> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam <http://bit.ly/virtualfriam> un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/
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