And vampire bats. It's called social capitol.
n Nick Thompson <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of David Eric Smith Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 10:20 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas I am amazed that the total extraction is only 85,000 tons/year now. If all vehicular transportation does go Li or Li-ion battery-based, we really should be planning for all this to be integrated with demand-buffering of the grid. No reason to build a completely separate parallel buffer bank using more Li while cars sit with batteries holding charge as if it were gasoline, waiting for the next drive. People will balk because this kind of cooperative paradigm is something they are programmed to reject anywhere they notice it. But it has enabled the eusocial insects to survive for a lot longer than humans have, so we should assume it will be necessary and adopt as another project how to get people used to that fact. Eric On Sep 4, 2021, at 12:25 AM, Marcus Daniels <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > wrote: For now there is the Salton Sea. <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.autoweek.com%2fnews %2fgreen-cars%2fa37029490%2fgm-will-suck-lithium-from-the-salton-sea-to-make -batteries%2f&c=E,1,09ICsA87ufw9vrQ2UUuV7CW-heRl96mRYkoPNPZDWM8ERlvr1h-YgbcK JgGyKXqEH-ipvKyFdaAlpoyA6xSNArBHUFSMIJ7cNpTMOOO6xaSjO6o,&typo=1> GM Will Suck Lithium From the Salton Sea to Make Batteries (autoweek.com) From: Friam < <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected]> On Behalf Of Jon Zingale Sent: Friday, September 3, 2021 8:05 AM To: <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Liberal dilemmas Now that Afghanistan is prepped to be the Democratic Republic of Congo 2.0 (this time lithium rather than coltan), I suspect that the world is poised for a whole new liberal dilemma: 1. Continue to support an oil industry largely responsible for rapid climate collapse. 2. Switch to supporting a battery industry that will be largely responsible for human trafficking/slavery and child labor. - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 <http://bit.ly/virtualfriam> bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fmailman%2f listinfo%2ffriam_redfish.com&c=E,1,DWJ1ZdHEzthlFwMLV5LMIhzwGYD0PzFTsoS5aGAOS pYNXW3Qq0SlUipdilgZPOQWPQE1zMxbAZ3SewuEh2LfUIVvqzLGZRpcvYKTo0dNZ-ByFHca&typo =1> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fmailman%2fl istinfo%2ffriam_redfish.com&c=E,1,DWJ1ZdHEzthlFwMLV5LMIhzwGYD0PzFTsoS5aGAOSp YNXW3Qq0SlUipdilgZPOQWPQE1zMxbAZ3SewuEh2LfUIVvqzLGZRpcvYKTo0dNZ-ByFHca&typo= 1 FRIAM-COMIC <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2ffriam-comic.blogspot.com %2f&c=E,1,T6EqyKx7kzfg5xPQMRxigVg3-g8aV7eIjSMRyIjO22DwkLytCbPgJaivXy7jPxGSnZ NCHSboQPf2h2--7AsykW2PPOhJcUuFxzyXyWJSNpMNDWc4tg,,&typo=1> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2ffriam-comic.blogspot.com% 2f&c=E,1,T6EqyKx7kzfg5xPQMRxigVg3-g8aV7eIjSMRyIjO22DwkLytCbPgJaivXy7jPxGSnZN CHSboQPf2h2--7AsykW2PPOhJcUuFxzyXyWJSNpMNDWc4tg,,&typo=1 archives: <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/> http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/
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