I missed mention in this dialog where the collapse of the USSR is figured in the analysis. For example, if the conflict with Russia escalated and there was a full-scale nuclear exchange, and the United States collapsed, then it would be reasonable to talk about Idahoans becoming their own unique state. They'd just have to persuade anyone they were shipping potatoes to that they were a country. I would say some Idahoans are barely recognizable as Westerners. I'd probably recognize the values of a Kyiv resident as more like mine.
-----Original Message----- From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of glen Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 9:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [FRIAM] self and next* On the heels of Marcus' challenge re: next* and EricS' discussion of iterative inter-subjectivity, Scott's tolerance to Thorfinnsson's insane comment triggered me: Who Gets Self-Determination? https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/who-gets-self-determination?s=r "A people" is Yet Another convenient fiction only grounded through repetition and entrainment, a purely social, but no "less real", construct. Being in that triggered state, this article carried a little extra intensity: The end is nigh for Northern Ireland as we know it – and unionists can blame themselves https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/30/the-end-northern-ireland-unionists-blame-themselves-dup-sinn-fein -- Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
