I missed mention in this dialog where the collapse of the USSR is figured in 
the analysis.
For example, if the conflict with Russia escalated and there was a full-scale 
nuclear exchange, and the United States collapsed, then it would be reasonable 
to talk about Idahoans becoming their own unique state.  They'd just have to 
persuade anyone they were shipping potatoes to that they were a country.   I 
would say some Idahoans are barely recognizable as Westerners.    I'd probably 
recognize the values of a Kyiv resident as more like mine. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of glen
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 9:19 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [FRIAM] self and next*

On the heels of Marcus' challenge re: next* and EricS' discussion of iterative 
inter-subjectivity, Scott's tolerance to Thorfinnsson's insane comment 
triggered me:

Who Gets Self-Determination?
https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/who-gets-self-determination?s=r

"A people" is Yet Another convenient fiction only grounded through repetition 
and entrainment, a purely social, but no "less real", construct. Being in that 
triggered state, this article carried a little extra intensity:

The end is nigh for Northern Ireland as we know it – and unionists can blame 
themselves 
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/30/the-end-northern-ireland-unionists-blame-themselves-dup-sinn-fein

--
Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙


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