I wish I knew of a way to navigate metanarratives methodically:

In Hungary, Viktor Orbán Remakes an Election to His Liking
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/31/world/europe/hungary-viktor-orban-election.html

On the one hand, I'm sympathetic with the idea, say, that one needs a state issued ID in order to 
vote in person. On the other hand, I recognize that getting, keeping, and having the extra time off 
or cognitive free cycles to remember to bring it to the voting booth are all important factors. 
Overhead is expensive, especially in a society that doesn't compensate you for the time you spend 
on overhead tasks. (My company's overhead is relatively very small. But it's still about %20. 
Behemoths like universities runs much higher like 50% or more. How can 50% of your budget be 
"overhead"? It boggles. But there's also the inane slogans like "Safety is Job 
#1!" Pffft. No. The mission is job #1. Safety supports that.)

But like the Federalist Society's takeover of SCOTUS, gerrymandering, and the false 
equivalence between election and voter fraud, I have no way of explicitly punctuating 
cross-trophic rhetorical moves. I can scream Composition/Division Fallacy till I'm blue 
in the face. But it's largely lost. (The other day, 3 pints in, I was trying to broaden a 
discussant's understanding of confirmation bias by comparing it to survivorship bias, 
where he accused me of "gish gallop": 
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop. [sigh])

Anyway, I'd appreciate any opinions on whether Orbán's election was "free but not 
fair."

On 3/30/22 09:47, Marcus Daniels wrote:
I missed mention in this dialog where the collapse of the USSR is figured in 
the analysis.
For example, if the conflict with Russia escalated and there was a full-scale 
nuclear exchange, and the United States collapsed, then it would be reasonable 
to talk about Idahoans becoming their own unique state.  They'd just have to 
persuade anyone they were shipping potatoes to that they were a country.   I 
would say some Idahoans are barely recognizable as Westerners.    I'd probably 
recognize the values of a Kyiv resident as more like mine.

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Subject: [FRIAM] self and next*

On the heels of Marcus' challenge re: next* and EricS' discussion of iterative 
inter-subjectivity, Scott's tolerance to Thorfinnsson's insane comment 
triggered me:

Who Gets Self-Determination?
https://astralcodexten.substack.com/p/who-gets-self-determination?s=r

"A people" is Yet Another convenient fiction only grounded through repetition and 
entrainment, a purely social, but no "less real", construct. Being in that triggered 
state, this article carried a little extra intensity:

The end is nigh for Northern Ireland as we know it – and unionists can blame 
themselves 
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/mar/30/the-end-northern-ireland-unionists-blame-themselves-dup-sinn-fein

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