Kinda depends. The book Alien Information Theory argues that DMT literally takes you to a different universe (based on Wheeler's and others theories that the universe is fundamentally information and brought about by observation of quantum events). He suggests putting yourself on a DMT drip to you will remain in that alternate universe permanently. He makes the observation, "to your friends you will appear to be dead."
So that is one I would not do "completely" unless I was on my deathbed and had nothing to lose. davew On Thu, Apr 14, 2022, at 12:09 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Everything once, but not once, completely? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Prof David West > Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2022 12:07 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Selective cultural processes generate adaptive heuristics > > My philosophy: ((everything) (once) then in moderation if it suits you) > not sure of parentheses, been a long time since Algebra I > > davew > > > On Thu, Apr 14, 2022, at 8:05 AM, glen wrote: >> I certainly hope I'm not winning you over, accidentally or otherwise. >> Your use of the word "fetish" is spot-on, in that such paraphilia is, >> ultimately, unhealthy >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_paraphilias> ... I guess >> barring the "everything in moderation" principle [⛧]. >> >> In fact, to be "won over" implies imprisonment, convicted to one's >> convictions. However, I also think it's unhealthy to, say, be so >> Luddite that you prefer "natural immunity" to vaccination ... or >> prefer your wood burning fireplace to natural gas heat ... or to >> demand to "talk to a person" rather than interacting with the phone >> tree. That hyper-traditionalism is *also* an unhealthy fetish and it's >> why, despite my conservatism, the neoreactionaries are so repulsive to me. >> As a conservative, I constantly find myself defending the Now against >> the fetishists of both the Yesterday and Tomorrow. Does that mean I >> have a Now fetish? Maybe. But it's more like a reaction to the non-Now >> fetishes around me. >> >> >> [⛧] The interpretation of "everything in moderation" depends on where >> you put the parentheses. (Everything) (in moderation) implies you >> *should* do just a little bit of everything ... a little sky diving ... >> a little body modification ... a little Christianity ... a little >> crack cocaine, etc. But (Everything in moderation) implies that >> whatever it is you choose to do should be in moderation. >> >> On 4/13/22 12:05, Steve Smith wrote: >>> I think you are (accidentally?) winning me over to the post/trans-humanist >>> fetish. Just your talk of "play" and realizing how much I *already* play >>> with automatons in the form of (see driving anecdotes) other drivers and >>> roadway systems and (smart or dumb) traffic-lights, etc and bureaucracies. >>> I admit to always being taken in by (modern) science fiction stories with >>> robot/android - human relationships... playing what might amount to a >>> continuous, infinite game of Turing Test with them. The same kind of >>> "play" I currently engage in with dogs, cats, horses, watercourses, etc. >>> As a good animist, I can't see how I could reject the opportunity to "Play" >>> with machine intelligences! >>> >>> When I get a full-body prosthetic to make up for my slowly failing organic >>> musculo-skeletal system, I will probably find great enjoyment in "playing" >>> with it the way I currently "play" with my bicycle and other vehicles, >>> testing (softly these days) their performance envelope and response modes. >>> >>> Jump cut to Ridley in her Space-Mining-Waldo-Exoskeleton with or without >>> an Alien opponent. >>> >> >> -- >> Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ >> >> >> .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn >> UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe >> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: >> 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > > > .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- > - . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: > 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > > .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: > 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . 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