Right. This seems to be part of Mouffe's framing. A given hegemony need not pull out all 
the stops to *stay* the hegemony. Even if one hegemony considers itself the Best hegemony 
(as the rationalists do), there's room for dynamism. It's especially egregious if, as in 
rationalism, you think your system adheres most to reality and will "win out in the 
long run" because of that, you *still* try to hobble your opponent at every turn.

Those who are actually confident in their skills aren't fragile to the rhetoric 
of their colleagues.

In some ways, a regime is obligated to give up power just to *test* if it can resume the power 
later. How powerful/correct/true can you actually be if you can't lose a battle or 2, then return 
to win the next battle? You'd think libertarian individualists who constantly blather empty words 
like "competition" and "grit" would understand this.

On 6/6/22 11:16, Marcus Daniels wrote:
The manosphere thing is annoying not because there isn't such a thing as 
misandry (there is, of course), but because when you have the power or are in 
the majority, it is just in poor taste to defend that position.   Show some 
character and defend the minority or more vulnerable position.

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From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of glen
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Ha! Well, IDK what "misanthropic" means. The accusation is lobbed at me all the time 
because I don't enjoy hugs or other sorts of uninvited touching and because I prefer criticism over 
compliments. But I think the word carries different meanings in different contexts. While I'm not 
fond of most human organisms, I *am* fond of the structures they create ... their nests (apartments 
and cities), the fossils from their behaviors (art, books), etc. I'm even fond of their large 
scale, collective behaviors (like mosh pits and scooter traffic in India). If there's a word for 
"hates humans but loves humankind", then I'm nearly there.

On 6/6/22 10:08, Marcus Daniels wrote:
Why can’t we all just be misanthropic and call it even?

On Jun 6, 2022, at 8:44 AM, glen <[email protected]> wrote:

Ya gotta love PZ. I don't know if he's a good biologist. But he's a great 
critic, especially when he takes on members of the manosphere:

https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2022/06/04/pz-takes-on-jordan-peterson-and-richard-dawkins/

I know Dawkins might not be thought of as a member of the manosphere 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manosphere> ... but I think he ranks, not least 
for his explicit and unnecessary opinions on trans people. [sigh] What are the signs 
one's cultural homunculus has corrupted one's scientific homunculus? And can the 
latter be returned to a healthy state after such corruption?

I'm knee deep in Mouffe's Agonistics: 
https://bookshop.org/books/agonistics-thinking-the-world-politically/9781781681039
 So far, it appeals to my anarcho-syndicalist and postmodern sympathies. I'm at 
risk of being programmed by the text, though. Luckily, I read so slow and 
comprehend so little, any programming will be buggy: 
https://youtu.be/2j3adcbEwSM?t=52



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