Steve, Spinoza has ancestors in common with Spanish (and New Mexican) people named Espinoza or Espinosa. Will Durant said he had the clearest knowledge of God of any philosopher. I suppose that was knowledge of the third kind.
--- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, Jun 11, 2022, 5:53 AM Steve Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > As long as I am scattergunning this list with the rock-salt of my random > studies, I have to toss Spinoza over the transom as well. > > Being too lazy (manically preoccupied) to thread my way back through the > existing discussions on duality on this list, I will simply ask if anyone > here has already thrown down on Spinoza's take on duality here, or even > better, is willing to now: > > From Spinoza's Ethics > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_(Spinoza_book)#Part_II:_Of_the_Nature_&_Origin_of_the_Mind>: > > > *Further, there is no difference between contemplating an idea and > thinking that it is true, and there is no **freedom of the will > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_will>** at all. Sensory perception, > which Spinoza calls "knowledge of the first kind", is entirely inaccurate, > since it reflects how our own bodies work more than how things really are. > We can also have a kind of accurate knowledge called "knowledge of the > second kind", or "reason". This encompasses knowledge of the features > common to all things, and includes principles of physics and geometry. We > can also have "knowledge of the third kind", or "**intuitive knowledge > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intuition>**". This is a sort of knowledge > that, somehow, relates particular things to the nature of God.* > > In Spinoza's taxonomy, it would seem that DaveW's "dark-matter/energy" > attribution is what Spinoza calls "knowledge of the third kind". > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >
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