I voted for Hillary because she’s the kind of person that would do what is 
necessary.   There’s the possibility of expecting bad faith overall but seeking 
a set of favorable policies.    I expect Mitch McConnell to lie.   But it isn’t 
the lying that bothers me, or violations of process.  It is the values he 
represents that bother me.

From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Prof David West
Sent: Saturday, July 2, 2022 12:18 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Republicans need to renew themselves (was: self-care)

Tactical party switching might be a reasonable explanation, but one that will 
be easily verified, empirically, when all 1 million switch back before fall.

Republicans switching to Democratic is easily attributable to disgust with 
Trump, not Republican positions and certainly not because of some kind of 
conversion to democratic positions. Again, easily verified by a reverse switch 
if and when Trump is no longer the candidate. The reverse switch would be 
especially telling if the candidate next time is a DeSantis or similar, as it 
would expose antipathy to the person, not the positions or governance.

davew


On Sat, Jul 2, 2022, at 11:36 AM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:
My sense is that many of the "defecting" Democrats have switched to vote for 
the Republican candidate in the primaries who would be the most likely to be 
beaten by the opposing Democrat in the general election.  So far, it hasn't 
seemed to work.

On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 10:33 AM Prof David West 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

"The Republicans lost their way. When the Republicans turned into a MAGA party, 
they lost their last sparks of integrity and became a violent authoritarian 
cult which worships a conman."

Absurd!!

Over 1 million registered democrats switched to registering republican this 
year, so far. Do you really believe that these people somehow became deluded 
cultists?

The absolute worst thing about the American political system is the, de facto, 
two-party system that forces voting for something when you simply want to vote 
against something else.

And it is the party apparatchik that personify "something" into a living 
breathing candidate. The vast majority (80+%) of voters then"hold their noses" 
and "swallow their disgust" and appear to vote for a 'person' when what they 
really want to do is vote against "something." [I am being deliberately vague 
about something, but it would be a mix of philosophies, beliefs, policies, 
laws, appointments, actions, oratory, etc.]

It would not even be accurate to say that politicians and party apparatchiks 
"lost their way;" as they never had a "way" to begin with. To a person they are 
cynical amoralists who care nothing about acquiring power and winning the next 
election. McConnell and Pelosi are but the two faces of same Janus god. (Yes, I 
recognize that my rhetoric here is just as absurd as the quoted rhetoric that 
began this post.)

davew
On Sat, Jul 2, 2022, at 12:33 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote:
It is not the US government. The Republicans lost their way. When the 
Republicans turned into a MAGA party, they lost their last sparks of integrity 
and became a violent authoritarian cult which worships a conman.

Corrupt Republican politicians like Mitch McConnell who look like their own 
mummy cling to power by embracing this dangerous cult and by manipulating voter 
districts (gerrymandering). The GOP needs to renew itself. Here in Europe Green 
parties begin to replace the conservative parties.

-J.


-------- Original message --------
From: Sarbajit Roy <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: 7/2/22 08:58 (GMT+01:00)
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] self-care

The hypocrisy of the US govts is amazing.

For decades they have been desperately promoting pill based self induced 
abortions as "safe" abortions in India and Latin America through their puppets 
like the Guttmacher Institiute and by using misrepresentations and outright 
lies.

These pills are highly toxic / carcinogenic and Guttmacher was caught red 
handed by us for using fake accounts on Wikipedia to shape the "self induced 
abortion" article to depict it as safe and as an at-home remedy. We got 
Guttmacher delisted in India for about a year, but they made their way back 
through the USAID RMNCHA programs used to bribe foreign government servants to 
shape policy

Sarbajit

On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 8:52 PM glen 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
In the aftermath of the activist Justices overturning RvW, this popped up in my 
feed:

How to Give Yourself an Abortion
https://jewishcurrents.org/how-to-give-yourself-an-abortion

I remain torn on the issue of self-care. And lots of energy was added to my 
oscillators with the whole "horse dewormer" thing for COVID-19. (Yes, I'm 
poking fun both at the people who bought veterinary ivermectin and the people 
who used the disgusting sneer "horse dewormer".) To boot, this post came up 
this morning about a homeopathic packet sent home with the patient after 
surgery: https://centerforinquiry.salsalabs.org/2022cfimidyearemailversion11. 
(Placebo is a thing, despite Blumner's write-off.)

Nick is fond of asking people whether they take multivitamins or not. And while 
it's true most experts claim that *healthy* people just pee them out. *Who* 
amongst us actually qualifies as "healthy"? What does "health" even mean? 
That's not an idle or rhetorical question. Am I "healthy", despite the 
excruciating chronic pain in my shoulders, neck, and lower back? Despite my 
sporadic debilitating migraines? Despite my now abated follicular lymphoma? 
Sure, I *seem* healthy because I can do pull-ups, shovel dirt, drink 5 pints 
without a hangover, and maintain a full-time job with a bit of time for 
hobbies. But what you see from the outside doesn't reflect what I feel on the 
inside, which is like a sick puppy where the slightest bad event would topple 
me into the "disabled" category. "Healthy" is at best a misinformation concept, 
at worst a malinformation concept: 
https://www.cisa.gov/sites/default/files/publications/mdm-incident-response-guide_508.pdf

Sneer all you want at the new-age descendant reading self-help books, cutting 
out magazine ads for their "vision board", or self-administering veterinary 
de-fetus pills, but there's something important, here. Fad diets, bottled 
water, alcoholism or pregnancy as an indicator for moral failure, etc. all 
point at that thing, whatever that thing is.

In that context, self-administered abortion is legit.

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