Well, there are analogs to "irate customer generating negative feedback" in polluting the commons. The real difference between the rhetoric in that optimal fraud article and things like AI-generated nonsense publications is the "waterfall" accountability. There's an equivalent waterfall accountability to processing information from ill- or non-curated sources. But it's not measured as well, nor are the costs proportionally born by those involved.
Marcus' suggestion that all the cost should be (is) born at the edge is pure fantasy. The costs are also born by, e.g. every editor with a shred of integrity, every institution that pays for subscriptions, every researcher hunting for a "good" place to submit their work, etc. More banal examples might be wellness channels on Youtube, places like Goop <https://goop.com/>, or the nutriceutical market(s). A poignant example is the Log4Shell supply chain vulnerability. Garbage can be inserted into any branch point in the (pollutable) supply chain. And the costs are born by the entire chain, proportionality depending on whether it's "regulated" by conscious attendees (like the head of Fraud in Business, Inc. or the actuaries at the insurance companies). On 9/7/22 20:02, Roger Critchlow wrote:
In a similar vein, this article showed up on hackernews last week https://bam.kalzumeus.com/archive/optimal-amount-of-fraud/ <https://bam.kalzumeus.com/archive/optimal-amount-of-fraud/> though a fraudulent credit card transaction has an irate customer generating negative feedback, where a badly edited journal merely pollutes the commons. -- rec -- On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 9:42 PM Marcus Daniels <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: What is the problem with paper mills? Cite papers that are important, ignore papers that are not.On Sep 7, 2022, at 1:32 PM, glen <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: We need to talk about editors http://deevybee.blogspot.com/2022/09/we-need-to-talk-about-editors.html?m=1 <http://deevybee.blogspot.com/2022/09/we-need-to-talk-about-editors.html?m=1> I know. Ya'll are prolly unsubbing because of all my spam. But until Voldemort bans me, this is the state of the world. What does it say about me that I find this beautiful: "Asthma disease are the scatters, gives that influence the lungs, the organs that let us to inhale and it’s the principal visit disease overall particularly in India. During this work, the matter of lung maladies simply like the trouble experienced while arranging the sickness in radiography are frequently illuminated. There are various procedures found in writing for recognition of asthma infection identification. A few agents have contributed their realities for Asthma illness expectation. The need for distinguishing asthma illness at a beginning period is very fundamental and is an exuberant research territory inside the field of clinical picture preparing. For this, we’ve survey numerous relapse models, k-implies bunching, various leveled calculation, characterizations and profound learning methods to search out best classifier for lung illness identification. These papers generally settlement about winning carcinoma discovery methods that are reachable inside the writing."
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