Hm. I suppose it's worth a shot. If we prompt with "All energy in the universe is expressed in 
motion. All motion is expressed in waves. All waves are curved. So where do the straight lines come 
from to make the Platonic solids?" Then it's possible the LLM would complete that with 
"There are no straight lines. So when I took the flower of life and opened it properly, I 
found all new wave conjugations that expose the in-between spaces. It's the thing that holds us all 
together." But I sincerely doubt it.

But maybe by "have to have", you mean that an LLM *could* be trained (and/or 
structured) to bias toward rare expressions/concepts in its training set instead of more 
common ones.

On 5/30/24 09:01, Marcus Daniels wrote:
I'm not going to watch Joe Rogan, 😊 but I think LLMs don't have to have this 
homogenous mean problem.  They capture a distribution, so it is a question of 
the inference procedure to sample from it.  What is the (beam) search 
algorithm, how deep does it go, and what is the sampling temperature.

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Terrence Howard | Full Address and Q&A | Oxford Union 
https://youtu.be/ca1vIYmGyYA?si=vhbtA5WUX1CV8LZH

Joe Rogan Experience #2152 - Terrence Howard
https://youtu.be/g197xdRZsW0?si=kFTa7lQJI1lKA6R1

I just can't help but wonder how many people, while listening to Howard talk, 
realize they're interacting with a sick individual (who deserves compassion but 
does not deserve gullibility). Or how many people are (like Rogan seems to have 
been) ... uh ... hypnotized by Howard's well-crafted word salad. In this LLM 
era, where many people, including some on this list, are enthralled by random 
bullshit, it seems like a reasonable thing to wonder about. Luckily, the clear 
cognitive power Howard exhibits puts him in some kind of rare quantile. So our 
LLMs, being driven mostly to a homogenous mean, their random bullshit will, by 
definition, match those of us within 1 or a few sigma and suppress the weirdest 
among us.

Being a fan of steel-manning, I'm having a bit of a crisis. The paradox of tolerance 
tells me that we absolutely must call bullshit at some point, even if it's not ruthless. 
Those Oxford Union attendees danced around egging him on and calling him out. Is this 
what the kids call "cringe"? Do we just cringe and tolerate it? Or, like Rogan, 
pretend to credibility relying on his weirdness to be so weird that it'll disappear into 
the tails? Or should we be deplatforming the bullshit?



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