Seems like a lot of people will try to leave Africa because of climate change. 
I suppose they’ll end up in Europe, creating yet more folks like Trump to rile 
people up about it. 

From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of Barry MacKichan 
<barry.mackic...@mackichan.com>
Date: Thursday, November 7, 2024 at 8:03 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] How democracies die 

Actually, depopulation is already underway. Birth rates are below the 
equilibrium value in many countries, and most of the others are headed in that 
direction. I believe that the current estimate is that 2050 will be the peak 
year for the world population. 
How we manage this is an important task. 
As we transition into this stage, the ratio of the populations of the various 
groups will depend strongly on when and how much their birth rates decline. One 
estimate is that by 2100, the population of Sub-Saharan Africa, as a fraction 
of the world population, will be six times what it is now. 
This link is unfortunately paywalled The Age of Depopulation: Surviving a World 
Gone Gray 
<https://www.foreignaffairs.com/world/age-depopulation-surviving-world-gone-gray-nicholas-eberstadt>
 (you can read it if you give your email address to them), but if you have the 
time, the author gave a lecture in Australia. The Coming Global Depopulation | 
Nicholas Eberstadt | John Bonython Lecture - YouTube 
<https://youtu.be/ahjdeDhP09o> 
— Barry 
On 6 Nov 2024, at 10:58, glen wrote: 
With 8 billion people on the planet, liberalism is a fantasy, or perhaps just a 
fossilized ideology we have to grow out of as the old people die. Of course, we 
could depopulate the earth and resuscitate liberalism that way. But that sounds 
more painful than changing our minds. Hm. Maybe it is easier to kill and die 
than it is to change one's mind? IDK. 


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