Yeah, you and I will be dead. But someone will be alive. I have a friend who laments all 
the (human) suffering Trump 2.0 will cause. My view is that "we" have been 
suffering for hundreds of millenia. Harris wouldn't have stopped it. The Rationalists 
working to thwart Roko's basilisk won't stop it. Trump 2.0 will be a tiny blip on the 
suffering curve. The best we can do is (every so slightly) harden the processes by which 
the universe is understood ... not harden the artifacts the processes create ... harden 
the processes that create the artifacts. There is no such thing as knowledge, only 
curiosity.

On 3/17/25 7:59 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
Annealing is a slow heuristic given the speed of human nervous systems.   We'll 
probably be dead before a low energy is found again.   Maybe if our AI 
overlords lay down the law.

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cf. 
https://www.univ-amu.fr/en/public/actualites/safe-place-science-aix-marseille-universite-ready-welcome-american-scientists

FWIW, I'd prefer Germany over France ... but maybe only because I've been there 
a lot more. I've only been to Paris and Grenoble. But I'm also not a scientist; 
so it's a bit moot. Canada is more likely. But Eric's right. I'd prefer to 
stay, mitigate and re-build to whatever extent I can. And, in principle, a 
little annealing might be a good thing for us. There are defects captured in 
the bureaucratic crystal. I remember a long conversation including Nick and a 
few others about how negatively they react to bureaucracy they do not like. It 
was ironic that I was the only one defending bureaucracy. Sometimes the 
bathwater *is* the baby.

On 3/16/25 2:16 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote:
American scientists who want to come to good old Europe are welcome
here. I believe we have better and healthier food too (which is not
difficult because the U.S. is famous for fast food and fast food is as
everybody knows really not good for you)
https://www.cartoonmovement.com/cartoon/scientists-run-again

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