@cstross suggested that we use a JavaScript "minifier" that replaces all the 
variables with banned words 
<https://groundreport.in/latest/full-list-of-words-banned-by-trump-including-climate-change-8839026>.
 It wouldn't change the function of the code at all.

And I know Marcus was joking, but the object bound to CHIR99021 doesn't change 
regardless of its use. So is that really polysemy? I actually don't know.

Also, with slang like "sick", where it could mean illness or it could mean 
admiration, is that homonymous or polysemous?

And using Grok doesn't make one evil. It just means you don't mind putting more 
money under Musk's control. I mean, it's hard not to let some of your resources 
slip to feed Chaos Demons like Bezos or Musk. We all do it. It's just a matter 
of whether we're intentional about it.

On 4/10/25 15:49, Prof David West wrote:
Reminds me of a recent conversation with Grok (yes, I know that makes me evil, 
but it was handy)

It started with discussion of garden path sentences, like "the man saw the woman in 
the park with the telescope." Grok correctly parsed three possible meanings from the 
sentence. I suggest a fourth: the park had the telescope. The only way that this meaning 
might be discerned (other than as a very remote, technical, possibility) is if there was 
context from a near by sentence, e.g., one that mentioned a visit to Mt. Palomar, or at 
least L.A.


On 4/10/25 09:00, Marcus Daniels wrote:
Yeah, is CHIR99021 a treatment for bipolar disorder or a bioweapon for 
controlling reproduction?

On 4/10/25 10:53, steve smith wrote:

I do believe it is possible to recognize when someone is trying to communicate vs when someone is trying 
to obfuscate?   I think our discussions here of late about LLMs touches on this.  Can I tell if an LLM 
is "trying" to help me research/understand/think-about something" or is it just trying to 
"tell me what I want to hear"?   There are probably terms-of-art (a term of art in itself?) 
for this distinction/spectrum?

While my abstraction of LLMs as a manifold of sub-manifolds with linear narratives tracing various sub-manifolds might 
be misbegotten, it is where my head goes often.   The question (for me) is whether there are families of sub-manifold 
(said family a manifold in it's own right?) which can be labeled as "righteous" or "good faith" vs 
"duplicitous" or "bad faith".... but to Glen's point, nothing is context free?   A narrative arc on 
a story-world manifold within a story-multiverse (e.g. DC vs Marvel, vs ???) represents nested context?

When I worked with lawyers I felt I could tell the difference in the legalese I 
occasionally read if they were trying to be clear or obfuscating...  but not 
sure I could write an algorithm to detect which?

--
glen


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