Musk may not be seeking social reprogramming, but Altman definitely is: "[LLM technology] may be best understood as a machine for creating a new kind of society which could turn out terrific or really terrible." Altman, however, is not directing the technology to create a society of his own conception. Musk would be.
davew On Mon, Apr 14, 2025, at 2:55 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > I’ve toyed with idea that maybe what Musk is really doing with X is using as > an experimental platform for social reprogramming. The crazy MAGA stuff is > just an extreme point of the feasible convex hull to see if it is possible. > The question is something like “Can a large population be driven through > machine learning techniques to adopt randomly selected flavors of crazy?” > The answer appears to be yes, it can. Now with generative learning, we have > remarkable photorealistic images and human sounding voice. No need to > **actually** post anything on Instagram, it can all be invented. Sure I (a > robot) had dinner with the Prince of Wales, just look. > > *From: *Friam <[email protected]> on behalf of steve smith > <[email protected]> > *Date: *Monday, April 14, 2025 at 12:08 PM > *To: *[email protected] <[email protected]> > *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] ‘A huge cudgel’: alarm as Trump’s war on universities > could target accreditors | US universities | The Guardian > I like the conceptual inversion > > On 4/14/25 12:45 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> Cadwalladr would say that Meta and the others are autocratic, and I think >> they are. Nonetheless chatting with Grok doesn’t seem like an extension of >> Musk. It is another personality. The hyper literature girl raised in North >> Korea (say) is also distinct in this way. My hypothesis is that as these >> systems become more advanced, they will begin to direct their “leaders” and >> not be directed. One could imagine that a superintelligence would realize >> that all this surveillance was kind of pointless and that it would be better >> to engage the humans with enriching experiences, like a cognitive travel >> agent. As relatively lower-power agents, humans could be very good for >> computing on the edge. The superintelligence could use X, Instagram, >> Facebook, etc. as a reprogramming platform (as opposed to merely a way to >> polarize and crudely manipulate people). >> >> *From: *Friam <[email protected]> on behalf of steve smith >> <[email protected]> >> *Date: *Monday, April 14, 2025 at 11:32 AM >> *To: *[email protected] <[email protected]> >> *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] ‘A huge cudgel’: alarm as Trump’s war on universities >> could target accreditors | US universities | The Guardian >> >> >> On 4/14/25 12:23 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >>> Let’s say that in some obscure corner of the world there’s a freakishly >>> intelligent child that reads 100 papers from sci-hub and arxiv every day >>> and keeps doing this until she’s 40. Her comprehension is high and her >>> reasoning unmatched. She sees how to apply these models within the fields >>> where they were proposed and in others and can synthesize high-quality >>> engineering solutions at will. >>> >>> Has she stolen something? sci-hub did the distribution, so it is not >>> technically her copyright violation. >> Let's say that she was not a free agent but birthed and raised by an >> autocratic leader (e.g. PRK, CCCP, Russia, ???)... >> >> Does that change anything? I can't say. Splitting hairs can be such hard >> work! But apparently that makes it good (necessary) work! >> >> >> >> .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / >> ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-..FRIAM Applied Complexity >> Group listservFridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p >> Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriamto (un)subscribe >> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.comFRIAM-COMIC >> http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/archives: 5/2017 thru present >> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 >> http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... > --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https://bit.ly/virtualfriam > to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: 5/2017 thru present > https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ > > > *Attachments:* > • smime.p7s
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