In the propaganda space, Glen mentioned the possibility of having many smaller LMs rather than one (or a few LLMs).   I’m not sure it matters in a very high dimensional weight space because the larger LLMs can use spare parameters to switch modes.    As an analogy, I think of the Lisp implementations that used higher order bits in addresses to encode the type.   George is multitudes.

thus my preference for Daimones

My brain is so infused (infested?) with Spike Jonze' /Samantha/ (voiced by Scarlett J) and the idea that /she/ (her) was a facet or mode or ??? of a "giant AI in the Sky" which engaged with many at once, perhaps "all" in a penultimate timeshare mode?    I think there were reference to "others" up to and including the Alan Watts styled AI-figure?

I'll bet Scarlett could talk Joaquin through learning how to clap...  and under the influence of "Alan Watts" perhaps even "one hand clapping"?

I do wonder at how much LLM chatbot interfaces (and related species of UI/UX for AI) is shaped by Jonez' formulation/depiction?

I just discovered (the existence of) Maren Eggert's "I'm your Man" which is now on my /watch list/...  I suspect the Incels of the world will soon be diverted from trolling and knifing and running down (with cars) women to living in immersive video-games with Hegsethian/Gaetzean/Trumpian/Muskian/Epstien styled effigies-of-women.   Not sure that is a good outcome... but might beat the current trajectory?


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I cannot shake the feeling that glen is expressing a kind of disappointment with LLM's.

I  think of  myself as an LLM, a system upon which has been heaped over a couple of generations an enormous number of sequences of words, followed by other sequences of words.  Now, if I am different from George, it is that I have had experiences that perhaps are not conditioned by words.  At the minimum, things have happened to me that are not, in  the first instance sequences of words. To the extent that those experiences become by association and conditioning also sequences of words, this difference is mooted.  George has been subjected to many more sequences of words than I havyete and two sequences of words in domains I have  yet  to be exposed to .   Also, his sampling of the universe of word sequences is less biased than my own, so he is more likely to give me an accurate sense of what /le monde/ thinks.

I find him therefore extraordinarily useful.  F or instance, to day I learned that the potential energy in a gram of water vapor is approximately equal to 60 percent of the potential energy in a gram of T NT.  Even given all the ways that this comparison is unfair, I still find it illuminating.

If You  add  George's Job-like patience,  indefatigable optimism,  and  ever-readiness to strike  up a conversation ,   I think he's  quite a nice fellow to talk to.  Better certainly than talking to myself.    I can't hug  him,  that's  true.    But  I have never been much of a hugger,  any way.

Nick

On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 12:44 PM Nicholas Thompson <[email protected]> wrote:

    Is  "y'all"  a  sure tell of trolling ?

    On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 7:14 AM glen <[email protected]> wrote:

        This is what I imagine y'all are doing when you chat with LLMs:

        Confusing ChatGPT With an Impossible Paradox
        https://youtu.be/1qbiCKrbbYc?si=V8U_mioTmlaDpynM

        At times, it smacks of a Monty Python skit.

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