The interesting qustion is where exactly does the deterministic system turn 
into something nondeterministic, and how? We know from chaos theory in physics 
that this is possible. Chaotic, random behavior can emerge in a deterministic 
system. A strange attractor in a dynamical system like the Lorenz attractor or 
the Rössler attractor is a good example.William James says it is a sign of will 
to focus our attention. When our minds are focused on a particular object or 
goal in an act of will it is fundamentally an effort of attention (in Nick's 
words intentionality is the mark of the vital) and it is voluntary and not 
predetermined where we choose to focus our attention.According to William James 
free will means therefore we can choose to focus our attention on any subject 
or topic. Free will requires "freedom of thought", similar to freedom of 
speech. In western countries we have freedom of speech, which means we can say 
what we like, even if it is critical of the government. For example we could 
say the Trump administration is like a TACO - Trump Always Chickens Out - 
without being sent to Guantanomo or Alcatraz island.The key seems to be the 
ability to consider all kinds of alternatives for possible actions and to pick 
the one that fits best to the situation (the internal state and the external 
conditions). The wider the range of possibilities, alternatives, ideas and 
different hypotheses, i.e. the larger the entropy of thought, the larger the 
freedom. The mastery of language gives us through combinatorial explosion an 
almost infinite range of alternatives to consider. And it adds a new dimension 
to our intentionality. As Nick writes in his paper from 2000 intentionality has 
always been immanent in biological organisms, but only our intentionality can 
be abstract, i.e. our mental states can be directed at abstract goals, not just 
mates and food as in animals, including such lofty goals as understanding free 
will.-J.
-------- Original message --------From: Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> 
Date: 5/28/25  11:46 PM  (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity 
Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] The entropy of thought 
Jochen writes:< Free will is according to James related to the question what 
are the forces that increase or influence our attention. If I understand him 
correctly this means to identify the forces that reduce our "entropy of 
thought", and thereby our freedom of choice, correct? For example in the case 
of addiction the entropy of thought is reduced to 0, because the addict is only 
able to think of one thing, the object of desire, and one action, to get more 
of it. In this sense free will would mean a high entropy of thought.  
>Consistent with a deterministic system.   With lots of cores and memory, many 
hypotheses can be considered at once. Thus George has free will.
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