Where are you guys meeting now on Friday mornings? On Thu, May 29, 2025 at 9:18 PM Nicholas Thompson <thompnicks...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, Tom, I always value you suggestions and comments. > > On Wed, May 28, 2025 at 1:14 PM Tom Johnson <jtjohnson...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Interesting query, Nick, but I am finding that it is always interesting >> (so far) to (1) ask the AI to provide comments and footnotes with >> hyperlinks of why it did what it did and #2 run the same query multiple >> times in the same platform over set time phases and the same thing in >> multiple platforms. Then compare an contrast. >> Tom >> >> ======================= >> Tom Johnson >> Inst. for Analytic Journalism >> Santa Fe, New Mexico >> 505-577-6482 >> ======================= >> >> On Wed, May 28, 2025, 12:26 PM Nicholas Thompson <thompnicks...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Dear Colleagues, >>> I am trying to "design" the simplest sort of phenomenon that demands the >>> concept of entropy. My first description left many ambiguities which I >>> have attempted to correct in this revision. Unfortunately, the revision >>> has gotten horribly long. Still, I am hoping that at least a few of you >>> -- as you love me -- will respond. Here is the prompt. >>> >>> Our goal is to juxtapose two bodies of air, of equal temperature and >>> volume but different histories to see which can exert the most >>> pressure. Thus we hope to separate the effects of temperature, per >>> se, from the effects of how that temperature was arrived at. We start >>> with a single cylinder of air at one bar (roughly sea-level pressure) >>> and 50 degrees C, which contains three slidable/peggable dividers. One >>> is installed at the exact middle of the cylinder, the other two at opposite >>> ends. All motions of the sliders will be quasi- static (infinitely) >>> slow). The cylinders and the sliders are designed to be adiabatic—no >>> heat or mass can pass through them—except in the following two respects. >>> Just to the right of the central slider are installed two ports, one >>> through which air may be admitted or released and a second through which >>> heat may enter or depart through conduction. These ports will >>> always be assumed to be adiabatically sealed unless explicitly >>> described otherwise. Finally, on either side of the central slider is >>> installed a temperature sensor so that we may know the temperature within >>> the two chambers. >>> >>> With this equipment in hand, we begin the preparation of the two >>> juxtaposed chambers. On the left, we push in the slider until the left >>> chamber reaches a temperature of 20 degrees C. and we peg it there. We >>> measure the distance from the left slider to the central slider . Now, >>> we open the heat and air ports on the right side of the central slider and >>> we push in the right slider until it is the same distance from the >>> central slider as the left slider is on the other side. (Thus we have >>> guaranteed that the volume of the two adjacent chambers is the same) Now >>> we close the air port. Through the still open heat port we admit just >>> enough heat to bring the temperature up to 20 degrees C. and then we >>> seal it. So now we have, as planned, two adjacent chambers, of equal >>> temperature and volume. Now we unpeg the central divider. Which way, >>> if any, does it move and why? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> nick >>> .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. >>> / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >>> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >>> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >>> archives: 5/2017 thru present >>> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >>> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >>> >> .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / >> ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom >> https://bit.ly/virtualfriam >> to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >> archives: 5/2017 thru present >> https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >> > > > -- > Nicholas S. 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