What the heck is "moral status"? If superintelligence doesn't get moral status, then I think nothing will deserve moral status.
-----Original Message----- From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of glen Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2025 8:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [FRIAM] bigly https://www.404media.co/anthropic-exec-forces-ai-chatbot-on-gay-discord-community-members-flee/ Jason Clinton, Anthropic’s Deputy Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-d-clinton/ Jason Clinton wrote 🙄: > It’s quite a bit more complicated than you’d think: we don’t know what > consciousness or sentience is, it’s called the hard problem of > consciousness for a reason, [...] > > We have published research showing that the models have started > growing neuron clusters that are highly similar to humans and that > they experience something like anxiety and fear. The moral status > might be something like the moral status of, say, a goldfish, but they > do indeed have latent wants and desires, [...] I'm not posting to talk about how silly it is to ascribe consciousness to an AI bot. Nor am I here to rant, again, about egocentric preemptive registration. What irritates me about this is the word "highly". Maybe it's just me. But for a decade or so, we've been pelted all day every day with sh¡t Trump and his sycophants say. And either they *are* people with impoverished vocabularies; or they know they're speaking to such. They tend to intensify "weak" words like "similar". Because they're egoist, they *must* intensify what they're saying. And because they don't have access to better words, they have to intensify the few words they do have, e.g. "highly similar". Were I Jason, I hope I could have had the self-awareness to eliminate "highly" and simply write "similar". But a better option is to use stronger words <https://www.cjr.org/language_corner/very-trump-tweet-intensifier.php>. As with everything about the TACO President, the mask he chooses tells us something about what's under that mask. He pretends at strength because he's inherently weak. Of course, maybe it's my pet peeve because I'm also guilty of it? .... No! Stop it! "I got it, I got it! I know your damn words, alright?" <https://youtu.be/zgvXtexdgAM?si=G5-3-epw235wuY7n> -- ¡sıɹƎ ןıɐH ⊥ ɐןןǝdoɹ ǝ uǝןƃ ὅτε oi μὲν ἄλλοι κύνες τοὺς ἐχϑροὺς δάκνουσιν, ἐγὰ δὲ τοὺς φίλους, ἵνα σώσω. .- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-.. FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
