it looks like Gil was locked out of a secondary Gmail account:

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On Mon, Aug 24, 2026, 4:07 PM Eric Charles <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I'll be honest... I'm not sure I found the big-text emails all that
> coherent. What I gathered is that you lost access to a gmail account, which
> I understand can be insanely frustrating. But clearly you have access to
> the gmail account you are using to email this list.
>
> What I'm not sure about is what you think any of us can do about it. Are
> you demanding that someone here write a program to re-hack your email? If
> so, that's pretty far from anything my Ph.D. had anything to do with, and
> even if I could do that, I'm not sure I'd be inclined to discuss the
> problem in a fairly public forum.
>
> Best,
> Eric
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 10:20 AM Gillian Densmore <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Good morning Steve, 99% of the time I am 100% onboard with me(or anyone
>> else) to keep it... middle of the road. And a big Mea Culpa for the many
>> times that's been a issue.
>> This one time it's entirely as writing thing for my voice. That's why I
>> wanted to warn people that'd have (some censored because..just the right to
>> do) and still have, that voice to convey throught text. Because until the
>> web develops more of that (with filters), because even as a style choice:
>> no one wants there boss getting a WWF replay at lol.
>> And man thank also so much..
>>
>> It...means, the world, you've done what other failed at: just read and
>> listen. That's all I wanted. But it'salso  not fair to have a
>> arrogant company like google to steel my memories.:( I am just desperate
>> for more peoplelike you at least read, and listen
>> I have tried man.
>> The forums have blocked me
>> Youtubers that know the stuff: radeo silence.
>> I have to have my memories and that drives contents ripped out of googles
>> posesion, by any means necessary. And I do mean. ANY means.
>> Well legal routs are dwindling, and I will never ever let this go, not
>> ever.  I refuse to believe people with all there experience here can not
>> help. I suspect. just suspect. for now. That is more disgusting: unwilling
>> to help
>> Here's the dagger CO  me.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 8:04 AM Stephen Guerin <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Gil,
>>>
>>> I understand your frustration and have experienced it myself. The list
>>> probably is unable to help your challenges with restablishing your identity
>>> with Google or any corporate or govnernment system.
>>>
>>> You do hae identity here, which is established through relations in the
>>> network with me, your father and your others in town who know you
>>> physically or through social links. If you were an anonymous member on the
>>> list, your messages would have been first throttled for pre approval or
>>> removed. On and off list I have asked you to tone down the language and
>>> venting on the list mainly for folks on the list who don't know you.
>>>
>>> At a different level, we are thinking very concrelely on how identity
>>> works, webs of trust which is becoming esp important in the era of AI and
>>> the early promises of the decentralized web. And we think it goes beyond
>>> self-soveign identiy and to identity that is relational first. Of course
>>> this doesn't help your most immediate issues with Google.
>>>
>>> You are in the top percentage of internet users that may be able to help
>>> develop and test decentralized hosting of our data and intel intel and
>>> identity management. eg you are comfortable installing your own local
>>> servers and warez. We may hit you up to help in the near future.
>>>
>>> Love you, and tone it the F$%k down ;-)
>>>
>>> -Stephen
>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>> Stephen Guerin
>>> CEO, Founder
>>> https://simtable.com
>>> [email protected]
>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 6:22 AM Gillian Densmore <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> NIB:
>>>> What: me goatsed, somehow "hackers" (script kiddies i'd wager):  have
>>>> stolen my google account at: [email protected]
>>>> That one used for forums and basically where it's slop and spam.
>>>> the problem for the only and last time. Read and  ask me or owen AMA. I
>>>> will not repeat my myself beyond questions ok.
>>>> somehow between all of googles pathetic fancy security bullshit. Me
>>>> having one of the code generator authenticator things blah blah. I had been
>>>> up to then using lastpass.
>>>>
>>>> The timeline
>>>> Downloading music off of youtube with a
>>>> opensoruced appcalled parabolic. (lounge music):
>>>> Got kicked off line
>>>> Checked comcast
>>>> tried to log in
>>>> and could not
>>>> i am on android:
>>>> I tried first last pass's authenticator that failed so did googles
>>>> authenticator, (just incase I misread)
>>>> I tried to clear the cache of Last Pass's Authenticator  and reinstall
>>>> (failed)
>>>> I tried to clear the cache of  Googles authenticator then tried to
>>>> reinstall it.
>>>> (nothing)
>>>> I have tried literally all the ways I can try:
>>>> passwords
>>>> go to there "help" forum (just get ignored, like here) and they only
>>>> link the shit google offers and there are loads of threads of how this is
>>>> where gmail is pathetic: it assumes all kinds of stuff I guess, and they
>>>> fail miserably: see also:
>>>> the exact same problem
>>>>
>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1pa4qza/my_account_is_being_held_hostage/
>>>>
>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1v8lt93/gmail_got_hacked/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do not care how. I just am now: demanding this gets unfucked.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 6:00 AM Gillian Densmore <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I really like i've presented two real world problems...and crickets.
>>>>> Did everyone forget apply there fancy PHDs?
>>>>>
>>>>> Linking the same failed things does not help me in anyway shape or
>>>>> form. And frankly it comes across as a slight and insult for someone to
>>>>> then go off onto some incoherent something,while there's a _real_ problem
>>>>> that you socalled PHD's with all kinds of programing skills and a very 
>>>>> real
>>>>> applied fuckery from a god damn secruity failure.
>>>>> So once again
>>>>> From the top
>>>>> One of my google acounts: goatse'd between god knows what and who
>>>>> knows what about 2 weeks ago and since thenI have been bashing my head
>>>>> agains the same fucking wall of trying to get people to help me beyond a
>>>>> link I have said 9999 times I have tried all those things. I now need some
>>>>> help with where the hell go to for real actual help:
>>>>> Is it a lawyer?
>>>>> Is it a ghost?
>>>>> A white hat?
>>>>> Someone named tod
>>>>> Who
>>>>> what
>>>>> and where
>>>>> That will get me some god damn traction on my problem do I contact.
>>>>> Once I know that. I will happily let you people go back to what ever it 
>>>>> was
>>>>> that Jofr guy posted.
>>>>> No I will not StFU untill this problem has all hands, actually helping
>>>>> wich is what i have been SCREAMING  for and will not StFU about until this
>>>>> problem is fixed.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 4:26 PM Gillian Densmore <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> that's...the problem literally nothing at google works. -_-
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 10:08 AM jofr <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would try to contact Google support or follow the guidelines on
>>>>>>> the official help pages. Good luck
>>>>>>> https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/7682439?hl=en
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -J.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------- Original message --------
>>>>>>> From: Gillian Densmore <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Date: 8/12/26 5:51 PM (GMT+01:00)
>>>>>>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
>>>>>>> [email protected]>
>>>>>>> Subject: [FRIAM] Despite my betterr judgement I don't know who else
>>>>>>> to ask
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> google:
>>>>>>> someone or something has hijacked my account
>>>>>>> -despite 2fa (that's actually being a ******** problem)
>>>>>>> -despite a software passkey hack (see above)
>>>>>>> -despite lastpass (getting to that ****** in the ******** in a
>>>>>>> second)
>>>>>>> etc etc.
>>>>>>> Problem
>>>>>>> -about 14-16 days ago i was on youtube getting a bunch of music.
>>>>>>> something happened and I was kicked off line and tried to log back in:
>>>>>>> then i was ******* of several accounts and no ia m not going to
>>>>>>> clean up or sanitize just how raw this going to be.
>>>>>>> Level M warning intensity HEAVILY implied.
>>>>>>> You have been warned.
>>>>>>> In short:
>>>>>>> me on youtube getting a bunch of music: got kicked out of an account
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>> alt account for forums and stuff
>>>>>>> problems in no particular order:
>>>>>>> -> password I have in cache wrong,
>>>>>>> -> last pass: can't get in because
>>>>>>> -> my authenticator stuff on my ****** google f'n  account something
>>>>>>> from those keys wasn't working and I made the mistake of thinking it was
>>>>>>> androids normal fuckin' bullshit so I just cleared it's cache and tried 
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> reinstall: I could not do that.
>>>>>>> ->I've tried: litterally any fucking way to get throughg gmails:
>>>>>>> "try this other" way all those none of that worked
>>>>>>> -> I have tried there youtube reset in the vein hope that'd work to
>>>>>>> get into my ********* google ******** drive. no luck there
>>>>>>> -> I have tried the forums: that is the most usless fucking bullshit
>>>>>>> it's just there to fuck you over and let me tell you it works;
>>>>>>> -> they don't really help they just link you to a mega thread posted
>>>>>>> here thing: oh google doesn't have: anything normal no otp, no text,
>>>>>>> nothing zero zilch nada.
>>>>>>> -> ok so youtube might be a back door it's the only thing they seem
>>>>>>> ****** care about. so I tried that: you have some kind handle and
>>>>>>> unchangeable url messy url shades of wordpress thing: Ok gave it to 
>>>>>>> them, a
>>>>>>> stupid ai chat bot etc.
>>>>>>> -> not a fucking thing has worked
>>>>>>> like I have told everyone that'll listen: i don't give a fuck about
>>>>>>> the contents of my god dam inbox: it's motly spam. really I i just have 
>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>> to recover: travel pictures, some shit from world con, and family 
>>>>>>> picture,
>>>>>>> all kinds neet little things: meh amature quality  but...thee my *******
>>>>>>> memories and I am disgusted with google. ok. I do not want a fucking 
>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>> to do with them ever again.
>>>>>>> i am begging anyone here and I i don't know what kind of bounty
>>>>>>> you'll or pretty decently big boon I can offer so someone can help 
>>>>>>> unfuck
>>>>>>> this bullshit and get the fucking dick out of my fucking ass so I can 
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> my god damn files.
>>>>>>> what the hell do I need to do to convince those
>>>>>>> alabastered motherfuckers to unass my fucking shit I do not care about 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> email Imean yeah, anyoing. but ayaya 67 it's friz, i ya know setting up 
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> fresh digital footprint: yeah I dig brotha' that's a vibe, and starting
>>>>>>> fresh: why not, make it fun? ya know, but I will not relent on getting 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> stuff that matters: my fucking loot, my precious memories in a torrent. 
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> local nas. I do not care what. I just have got to have them protected 
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> back. and are disgusted how fucked up this is being just to get my life
>>>>>>> story back.
>>>>>>> pls man someone help me. You can go thrugh my dad (owen) if ya'all
>>>>>>> would rather even- I just have to have that stuft
>>>>>>>
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