Ah! yes well point taken that sigh as lame as it is..er  so umm...we we're
umm I believe you said: So you know those things called singlularies...and
there angery uncle Blackwhole and (as yet found) trippy aunt: the
whitehole:...so where might I go to find fun videos about whiteholes?



On Thu, Aug 27, 2026 at 4:10 PM Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> wrote:

> Claude in Chrome can indeed be useful for navigating complicated IT
> systems.   Also it may have seen other scenarios like this in its
> training.
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Jochen Fromm
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 27, 2026 3:04 PM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
> [email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Despite my betterr judgement I don't know who else
> to ask
>
>
>
> Gil, we would like to help you recover your account, but we do not want to
> be involved in any kind of illegal activity or hacking. I can try to
> explain you how quantum mechanics works - although the others would know it
> probably better than me - or help you solve a programming question - but
> people now use Claude anyway. Or I could try to show you Berlin if you
> should come here. But we cannot help you getting access to a lost account
> which belongs to a big corporation. Only they have access. For these big
> corporations a single user doesn't matter.
>
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Jochen
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Gillian Densmore <[email protected]>
>
> Date: 8/27/26 11:15 PM (GMT+01:00)
>
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
>
>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Despite my betterr judgement I don't know who else to
> ask
>
>
>
> Pardon the large font. it is not a troll. it's because of aging and
> needing to update my glasses and I for one find it a lot easier to read on
> a 2k res monitor, so I am attempting to be helpful. If I am wrong. let me
> know.
>
> The TLDR somehow someone stole tons of personal a data,emails, and
> passwords, in one of several particularly violent and deep data theft
> vioolations. In my case the proverbial nuke started at google, and then
> the blast radius (other potential systems they can get into) spread from
> there. When I initially asked I thought that I had to try to recover a few
> terrible pictures that have a grip of sentimental value i can not replace:
> for those who don't know how googles thing works you have basically a big
> box that can hold email (gmail) or or stuff (googledrive) the part I had
> asked about: is the google drive part specifically google pictures.
>
> so TLDR (again) is:
>
> as put it to my aunt " .*petaQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  * ferengi up and broke into
> my all kinds my personal data: including bank and gmail. (Hilariously
> enough Steam. The Game hosting platform kind. gave them the redshirt
> treatment faster than a ferengi caught stealing from a Klingon). So that
> leads me to requesting kinds sir virtual (holographic remotes)."
>
>
>
> so the outline is basically this
>
> googledrive(locke/hacked/stolen/heldhostage/and otherwise esonsed like a
> fereng petaQ with what ever it is google needs in order to believe me
> (Lord [BLANK] Gillian Densmore) is the dude that is the right and proper
> owner of [email protected]    (the personal data etc atached to it)
> and were able to attempt to go on to hack into (cringe) what ever other
> related systems they {grawlix here} wanted to. aka DOCKED/DOXED
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------->pictures:----------------------------->pictures
> from world con (oof but.) pictures of grandpa and grandma (high sentimental
> partially me much more so my dad and co) because he is ummm how I put
> this...in Suto'vo'qor
>
>
>
> So yes. a earnest ask Gud Fur, danke.  Der. Das Problem ist Folgendes:
> Die Schritte unter der URL zur Selbsthilfe funktionieren nicht. 2FA:
> Fehlanzeige. OTP: Was ist das? etc etc. the attackers managed to make
> there 2FA stuff think I am not not a idiot named Gil. They even tried to
> convince BoFa I don't have an account and it took a scary long amount of
> time before there security kicked them out. and I had used biometrics.
> same with amazon and lots more. What's scary. Ok explination and context
> for what follows time! I love this thing called Steam (hosting platform
> etc)  TLDR: Valve: guys that made hafl-life and a few other things run
> cloud thing called steam it hosts games. Steam-the games company kind!
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_(service)>
>   Steam didn't even let them get past the password screen, they notified
> pretty insanely fast and basically locked out the intruders.
>
>
>
> So um ja Lass uns bei Google einbrechen! Ich bringe die Brechstange, du
> holst die Tastatur.
>
> Und,Danke Steve-
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 27, 2026 at 2:13 PM Eric Charles <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Yes, that is the part I understood. But it seemed like they thought
> someone on the list should be able to write a... I guess a computer program
> to... I guess to fix that... somehow...
>
>
>
> I get the need to vent frustration sometimes... but was there an actual
> serious ask? Is the request for someone to try to brute-force hack gmail on
> her behalf, or something worse?
>
>
>
> Or was it just a semi-coherent all-caps "old-man yells at clouds" meme?
>
>
>
> Best,
> Eric
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 9:40 PM Stephen Guerin <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> it looks like Gil was locked out of a secondary Gmail account:
>
>
>
> [email protected]
>
>
>
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>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2026, 4:07 PM Eric Charles <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I'll be honest... I'm not sure I found the big-text emails all that
> coherent. What I gathered is that you lost access to a gmail account, which
> I understand can be insanely frustrating. But clearly you have access to
> the gmail account you are using to email this list.
>
>
>
> What I'm not sure about is what you think any of us can do about it. Are
> you demanding that someone here write a program to re-hack your email? If
> so, that's pretty far from anything my Ph.D. had anything to do with, and
> even if I could do that, I'm not sure I'd be inclined to discuss the
> problem in a fairly public forum.
>
>
>
> Best,
> Eric
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 10:20 AM Gillian Densmore <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Good morning Steve, 99% of the time I am 100% onboard with me(or anyone
> else) to keep it... middle of the road. And a big Mea Culpa for the many
> times that's been a issue.
>
> This one time it's entirely as writing thing for my voice. That's why I
> wanted to warn people that'd have (some censored because..just the right to
> do) and still have, that voice to convey throught text. Because until the
> web develops more of that (with filters), because even as a style choice:
> no one wants there boss getting a WWF replay at lol.
>
> And man thank also so much..
>
>
>
> It...means, the world, you've done what other failed at: just read and
> listen. That's all I wanted. But it'salso  not fair to have a
> arrogant company like google to steel my memories.:( I am just desperate
> for more peoplelike you at least read, and listen
>
> I have tried man.
>
> The forums have blocked me
>
> Youtubers that know the stuff: radeo silence.
>
> I have to have my memories and that drives contents ripped out of googles
> posesion, by any means necessary. And I do mean. ANY means.
>
> Well legal routs are dwindling, and I will never ever let this go, not
> ever.  I refuse to believe people with all there experience here can not
> help. I suspect. just suspect. for now. That is more disgusting: unwilling
> to help
>
> Here's the dagger CO  me.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 8:04 AM Stephen Guerin <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Gil,
>
> I understand your frustration and have experienced it myself. The list
> probably is unable to help your challenges with restablishing your identity
> with Google or any corporate or govnernment system.
>
> You do hae identity here, which is established through relations in the
> network with me, your father and your others in town who know you
> physically or through social links. If you were an anonymous member on the
> list, your messages would have been first throttled for pre approval or
> removed. On and off list I have asked you to tone down the language and
> venting on the list mainly for folks on the list who don't know you.
>
> At a different level, we are thinking very concrelely on how identity
> works, webs of trust which is becoming esp important in the era of AI and
> the early promises of the decentralized web. And we think it goes beyond
> self-soveign identiy and to identity that is relational first. Of course
> this doesn't help your most immediate issues with Google.
>
> You are in the top percentage of internet users that may be able to help
> develop and test decentralized hosting of our data and intel intel and
> identity management. eg you are comfortable installing your own local
> servers and warez. We may hit you up to help in the near future.
>
> Love you, and tone it the F$%k down ;-)
>
> -Stephen
>
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>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 6:22 AM Gillian Densmore <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> NIB:
>
> What: me goatsed, somehow "hackers" (script kiddies i'd wager):  have
> stolen my google account at: [email protected]
>
> That one used for forums and basically where it's slop and spam.
>
> the problem for the only and last time. Read and  ask me or owen AMA. I
> will not repeat my myself beyond questions ok.
>
> somehow between all of googles pathetic fancy security bullshit. Me having
> one of the code generator authenticator things blah blah. I had been up to
> then using lastpass.
>
>
>
> The timeline
>
> Downloading music off of youtube with a opensoruced appcalled parabolic.
> (lounge music):
>
> Got kicked off line
>
> Checked comcast
>
> tried to log in
>
> and could not
>
> i am on android:
>
> I tried first last pass's authenticator that failed so did googles
> authenticator, (just incase I misread)
>
> I tried to clear the cache of Last Pass's Authenticator  and reinstall
> (failed)
>
> I tried to clear the cache of  Googles authenticator then tried to
> reinstall it.
>
> (nothing)
>
> I have tried literally all the ways I can try:
>
> passwords
>
> go to there "help" forum (just get ignored, like here) and they only link
> the shit google offers and there are loads of threads of how this is where
> gmail is pathetic: it assumes all kinds of stuff I guess, and they fail
> miserably: see also:
>
> the exact same problem
>
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1pa4qza/my_account_is_being_held_hostage/
>
>
>
> https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1v8lt93/gmail_got_hacked/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I do not care how. I just am now: demanding this gets unfucked.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 6:00 AM Gillian Densmore <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> I really like i've presented two real world problems...and crickets. Did
> everyone forget apply there fancy PHDs?
>
>
>
> Linking the same failed things does not help me in anyway shape or form.
> And frankly it comes across as a slight and insult for someone to then go
> off onto some incoherent something,while there's a _real_ problem that you
> socalled PHD's with all kinds of programing skills and a very real applied
> fuckery from a god damn secruity failure.
>
> So once again
>
> From the top
>
> One of my google acounts: goatse'd between god knows what and who knows
> what about 2 weeks ago and since thenI have been bashing my head agains the
> same fucking wall of trying to get people to help me beyond a link I have
> said 9999 times I have tried all those things. I now need some help with
> where the hell go to for real actual help:
>
> Is it a lawyer?
>
> Is it a ghost?
>
> A white hat?
>
> Someone named tod
>
> Who
>
> what
>
> and where
>
> That will get me some god damn traction on my problem do I contact. Once I
> know that. I will happily let you people go back to what ever it was that
> Jofr guy posted.
>
> No I will not StFU untill this problem has all hands, actually helping
> wich is what i have been SCREAMING  for and will not StFU about until this
> problem is fixed.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 4:26 PM Gillian Densmore <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> that's...the problem literally nothing at google works. -_-
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 10:08 AM jofr <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I would try to contact Google support or follow the guidelines on the
> official help pages. Good luck
>
> https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/7682439?hl=en
>
>
>
> -J.
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Gillian Densmore <[email protected]>
>
> Date: 8/12/26 5:51 PM (GMT+01:00)
>
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
>
>
> Subject: [FRIAM] Despite my betterr judgement I don't know who else to ask
>
>
>
> google:
>
> someone or something has hijacked my account
>
> -despite 2fa (that's actually being a ******** problem)
>
> -despite a software passkey hack (see above)
>
> -despite lastpass (getting to that ****** in the ******** in a second)
>
> etc etc.
>
> Problem
>
> -about 14-16 days ago i was on youtube getting a bunch of music. something
> happened and I was kicked off line and tried to log back in:
>
> then i was ******* of several accounts and no ia m not going to clean up
> or sanitize just how raw this going to be.
>
> Level M warning intensity HEAVILY implied.
>
> You have been warned.
>
> In short:
>
> me on youtube getting a bunch of music: got kicked out of an account at
>
> [email protected]
>
> alt account for forums and stuff
>
> problems in no particular order:
>
> -> password I have in cache wrong,
>
> -> last pass: can't get in because
>
> -> my authenticator stuff on my ****** google f'n  account something from
> those keys wasn't working and I made the mistake of thinking it was
> androids normal fuckin' bullshit so I just cleared it's cache and tried to
> reinstall: I could not do that.
>
> ->I've tried: litterally any fucking way to get throughg gmails: "try this
> other" way all those none of that worked
>
> -> I have tried there youtube reset in the vein hope that'd work to get
> into my ********* google ******** drive. no luck there
>
> -> I have tried the forums: that is the most usless fucking bullshit it's
> just there to fuck you over and let me tell you it works;
>
> -> they don't really help they just link you to a mega thread posted here
> thing: oh google doesn't have: anything normal no otp, no text, nothing
> zero zilch nada.
>
> -> ok so youtube might be a back door it's the only thing they seem ******
> care about. so I tried that: you have some kind handle and unchangeable url
> messy url shades of wordpress thing: Ok gave it to them, a stupid ai chat
> bot etc.
>
> -> not a fucking thing has worked
>
> like I have told everyone that'll listen: i don't give a fuck about the
> contents of my god dam inbox: it's motly spam. really I i just have got to
> recover: travel pictures, some shit from world con, and family picture, all
> kinds neet little things: meh amature quality  but...thee my *******
> memories and I am disgusted with google. ok. I do not want a fucking thing
> to do with them ever again.
> i am begging anyone here and I i don't know what kind of bounty you'll or
> pretty decently big boon I can offer so someone can help unfuck this
> bullshit and get the fucking dick out of my fucking ass so I can get my god
> damn files.
>
> what the hell do I need to do to convince those alabastered motherfuckers
> to unass my fucking shit I do not care about the email Imean yeah, anyoing.
> but ayaya 67 it's friz, i ya know setting up a fresh digital footprint:
> yeah I dig brotha' that's a vibe, and starting fresh: why not, make it fun?
> ya know, but I will not relent on getting the stuff that matters: my
> fucking loot, my precious memories in a torrent. on local nas. I do not
> care what. I just have got to have them protected and back. and are
> disgusted how fucked up this is being just to get my life story back.
>
> pls man someone help me. You can go thrugh my dad (owen) if ya'all would
> rather even- I just have to have that stuft
>
>
>
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