On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 4:59 AM Ralf Hemmecke <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> ...
> >> ATM our handling of kernel cache is unsound.  Basicaly, kernel
> >> cache assumes order and in fact there are no consistent order
> >> on kernels.
>
> Why does Kernel need an order at all?
>

Ordering for kernels is important from the point of view of the use of
simplification and canonical form to determine equality. Most other
computational definitions of equality require much greater effort. In
general this is undecidable but it is desirable that any method
"almost work" in as large and important a subclass of expressions as
possible.

> Wouldn't it be an option to do kernel caching via XHashTable?
>

I tried using XHashTable to replace binary search while also
maintaining an ordering a few years ago. I did not see any performance
benefit.

> No, I have no deep insight. It's just a thought.
>

This problem has a long history and how it is treated in different
computer algebra systems is one of those fundamental things that
distinguishes them. I think that what Waldek is suggesting amounts to
trying to push the problem of defining canonical forms back to where
sub-expressions are generated. This sounds like a good strategy to me
but obviously not a complete solution.

Bill.

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