2007. június 20. dátummal Gabriel C ezt írta: > I agree with you but the 'server' side doesn't matter at all as long we > don't have any 'server edition release'. I have to disagree since I don't get the difference between a 'server' and a 'desktop' edition.
> All we have by now official are 'Desktop' images not server not foo not bar > and 'all sort packages' to run FW as server for advanced users/admins. I haven't seen any 'desktop' releases, but only 'frugalware' ones. I am administering several servers in different environments (hosting for several domains, small bussinness gateway/file server, school, etc.), and I don't have any drawbacks. To be honest, I don't want to have any drawbacks and/or regressions because of switching to upstart, and enabling-everything-per-default is a drawback for me. > Said 95% of all users installs Frugalware 'as is' for the 'Desktop' and > this is where we have to care for now. You have reason, but I haven't seen any statistics on this topic yet. > Once we have a real 'server iso and install support for it and whatever > server repos or the like' we can start to care but till then .. Well, why do we have eg. 'apache' in our repos? This is not needed for a 'desktop' install at all. There are several others of this kind: eg. *ftpd, MTA's, SQL servers... So I do understand your point of view, but it's baseless, as we do have everything in our repo, regardless of it's 'server'-like or 'desktop'-like kind, and we do support all of them. To sum up: I really appreciate Alex's (and others') work regarding to upstart, but enabling every service on install is a bad idea. OTOH there is a place where we can use your differentation between 'server' and 'desktop' stuff: if a service is needed for 'desktop' usage (eg. udev, alsa, etc.), let's enable it (as we mostly do it now), but if it's a 'server'-like service (eg. httpd, sqld, ftpd, etc.), I don't want it to be enabled by default. AFAIK upstart can handle this, all we have to do is implementing it. Where can I give you a hand on this topic? -- Bye, Boobaa ----------------------------- http://frugalware.org/~boobaa _______________________________________________ Frugalware-devel mailing list [email protected] http://frugalware.org/mailman/listinfo/frugalware-devel
