Andy,

I have a powerbook, and I know that all of Apple's Airport Extreme 
wireless cards are not supported under Linux.  Broadcom makes the 
chipset, and they will not release drivers for linux for the card.  The 
irony is that it is possible to get the chipset to work in an x86-based 
system with ndiswrapper - a windows driver emulator for x86 linux 
distributions.

That having been said, the Centrino chipset is preety good.  The 
integrated shared-memeory graphics are a sore point, but other than 
that it is okay.  The wireless card integrated with the centrino works 
with linux with an open source driver, as I understand.  If that does 
not work, you can always fall back to the ndiswrapper, but I am sure 
that an open-source driver is stable now for it.  The graphics work in 
linux, I think, but the 3d performance is dismal in any operating 
system.  The processor architecture is wonderfully efficient and fast, 
from what I have heard.  The 2nd-generation processor with 2MB cache is 
supposed to be quite a good all-around performer.

So, if you would like to run Mac OS X on a laptop, the Apple laptops 
are great.  I can vouch for the battery run-time - still probably 
better than almost any x86-based system from the price and weight 
standpoint.  The operating system is unix, but it has a very nice 
package system where you install an application as a single "virtual 
executable".  To install most applications, you drag-and-drop the icon 
from the installer self-mounting-image into your applications folder.  
To delete it, you drag it to the trash can.

However, Linux is still my preferred operating system.  Ironically, 
there are some applications that I wish that I could run natively on 
the Mac which I can not.  Personally, I just like tweaking the system, 
and knowing how it works at a very low level.  Mac OS X does not make 
this easy, but Linux does.  And, a lot of my favorite applications are 
second-class citizens in Mac OS X because they run in X11.  X11 is 
wonderful, but does not integrate with the system very well.  Also, 
Linux is Free and free, but my new version of Mac OS X(Tiger, 10.4) 
cost me over $70, and that includes the educational discount.  So, if 
you like Linux, go for the x86 solution, if you just want a stable 
system with good battery life, you can give Apple a spin.

I hope that this is at least somewhat helpful.

Caleb Jorden
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Andy Linsenbardt wrote:


>April 16, 2005
>
>So yeah, I think I've conned Mom and Dad to get me a laptop for 
>graduation...  I'm seriously considering getting an Apple (likely an 
>iBook...), but Dad wants me to look into PC options as well...in which 
>case, I'll want to put Linux on it...  Does anyone have experience with 
>getting Linux to work on a modern (i.e. within a year or two old...) 
>notebook?  I'd like to ether get an Athlon 64 in it (sadly, Turion 
isn't 
>really out yet...) or a Centrino, but I'm not sure how well certain 
>distros deal with Centrino (or any integrated wireless offerings, for 
>that matter)...  I'd rather keep it integrated wireless, rather than 
>springing for a PCMCIA card with Linux drivers...
>
>Thoughts?  Ideas?  Thanks!
>
>Andy
>
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