Op 07-08-12 07:11, Andrei POPESCU schreef: > On Lu, 06 aug 12, 22:49:13, Paul van der Vlis wrote: >> Op 06-08-12 19:50, Andrei POPESCU schreef: >> >>> Well, than let's address this problem and reword the text as to warn >>> against non-free firmware instead of hiding the issue under the carpet >>> on the premise that some firmware may be free. >> >> Can you try to find those words? >> >> I've tried it, the result was not nice. And if you want to give a >> possibillity to load firmware, then it can be interpreted as >> recommending non-free firmware. Please try it. > > ,---- > | Some of your hardware needs non-free firmware to operate.
No, the hardware needs firmware, there can be free firmware. What you are saying is something like: "for reading this file you need Adobe Reader". > | Debian does > | not recommend using non-free software, which is why it is not provided > | in the installer. Not sure. Not recommending something quietly is something else as saying lout and clear: "we do not recommend". I think a part of the Debian community will say: we still recommend using non-free firmware in this case. So it would be difficult to realize. > | Please read more about this at nonfree.org. This is a link to nonfree software. That's not OK I expect. > | Since some of the missing functionality may be important to you or even > | essential in order to continue this installation you are now given the > | opportunity to provide the firmware yourself. This could still be seen as a recommendation to install non-free firmware, because it's "important" or "essential". > | The firmware can be loaded from removable media, such as USB stick or > | floppy. > | > | [...] > | > `---- In your text I am missing the filename of the firmware. This is important information. Did you remove it deliberately? What do you think of: ---- | detect network hardware | | Some of your hardware needs firmware to operate. Debian does | not distribute non-free software, for that reason the firmware from | the manufacturer was not included. | | The missing firmware files are: ...... | | Firmware can be loaded from removable media, such as USB stick or | floppy. | | [...] | ---- Not sure firmware files can have a different name as the name the manufacturer uses. When this is poosible, it would be nice to have the change to give-in another name. With regards, Paul van der Vlis. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen http://www.vandervlis.nl _______________________________________________ Fsf-collab-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/fsf-collab-discuss
