Hoi Michael, Diese Mail von Jonas habe ich nicht bekommen.
Viele Grüsse Marcus > Am 16.04.2016 um 12:18 schrieb Dr. Michael Stehmann > <[email protected]>: > > Hallo, > > Am 16.04.2016 um 10:29 schrieb Werner Koch: > >> >> Als aktiver Leser gelte ich nicht als Nutzer? Jedenfalls habe ich der >> Sache nichts gehört - wo ist das denn wieder diskutiert worden? Sonst >> wird doch über jeden Schnickschack (z.B. Technik wie die Newsletter >> versendet werden) in aller Breite diskutiert. >> > > Im festen Glauben an Kooperation und Transparenz und damit möglichst > jeder interessierte Deutschsprachige informiert ist, leite ich Jonas > erste E-Mail in dieser Angelegenheit an mich und andere weiter: > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Betreff: Thoughts about our blog platform > Datum: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 21:08:10 +0200 > Von: Jonas Oberg <[email protected]> > An: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] > > Dear all, > > you're getting this mail because you've been using the FSFE's blog > platform in the latest month or two, and thus being one of the more > regular contributors. > > We're currently facing a situation where our blog platform has not > been updated in quite some time, and getting up to date with latest > Wordpress versions would be a herculean effort. In addition, we are > now forced to restart the blog server sometimes six times per day due to > bugs making it crash. > > This is obviously not sustainable, and we've been considering in the > system administration team whether to keep the blog system up and > finding a way to do the massive upgrades needed, or to stop offering > blogs as a service to fellows. > > We're currently leaning towards the second option: when we started > offering blogs, it was a nice service, and made it easy to get a blog > setup. These days, it's easy to setup your own blog or to have a > blog hosted elsewhere, and the use of our blog platform has also > decreased rapidly in the last years. > > I'm attaching a draft of a mail below, which we've been considering to > send out to announce such a shutdown, and as the most frequent users > of our blog platform, I would like to hear your thoughts on the > matter, before taking any action. > > > Sincerely, > > -- > Jonas Öberg, Executive Director > Free Software Foundation Europe | [email protected] > Your donation enables our work (fsfe.org/donate) > > Beigefügt war folgende E-Mail: > > Removing our blogs service.eml > Betreff: > Removing our blogs service > Von: > Jonas Oberg <[email protected]> > Datum: > 31.03.2016 20:16 > An: > fellows@silk > > Dear Fellow, > > when the FSFE began offering our blog platform, it was a genuinely > useful thing to do. The number of providers who offered blogging > software was more limited. Since then, the situation has changed, > and it's much easier for anyone to get a blog today. It takes little > effort and most of the alternatives would be more modern than what the > FSFE offer today. > > We've decided that it's time for our blog platform to retire and by > the 1st of July 2016, we'll remove the blog platform completely. > Partly for the reason outlined above, and partly because we've > encountered technical problems with our current setup which would take > significant resources to adress. We've already stopped registration of > new blogs. For anyone currently using our blog platform, you have a > few options of how to proceed at this point. > > Option #1: You can migrate your blog elsewhere, using first the > Tools/Export option in our Wordpress to export a database > dump. You should then contact [email protected] > to get a copy of your uploaded files folder. Lastly, when > you have a new blog setup, our system-hackers can also > setup a redirect from the old address to the new address. > > Option #2: If you'd like us to archive your blog as a set of static > web pages, we can also do this for you. We'll be using > a simple "wget" crawler to make the copy. This will not be > perfect, but it will be something. Again, you should > contact [email protected] for this. > > Option #3: Do nothing. In this case, the blog will be decomissioned. > > As we take this decision, we've also begun thinking about what we > really liked about the blog platform. We liked that there was, for > many blogs, a common theme identifying them as blogs from our > community. We liked they were easily syndicated on our planet[1]. We > liked how easy it was for a new volunteer in a local group to start > writing about what happened in the group. > > Moving forward, we'll think about how we can take the parts we > liked, and see if we can not realise the same with a more modern > platform. We will not install anything new for the foreseeable future > though. > > Please contact [email protected] if you have any questions > or would like assistance. > > Sincerely, > > -- > Jonas Öberg, Executive Director > Free Software Foundation Europe | [email protected] > Your donation enables our work (fsfe.org/donate) > > Jonas Antwort auf unsere Eingaben klang für mich hoffnungsvoll: > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Betreff: Re: Thoughts about our blog platform > Datum: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 05:21:30 +0200 > Von: Jonas Oberg <[email protected]> > An: Dr. Michael Stehmann <[email protected]> > Kopie (CC): [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] > > Hi Michael, Florian, > >> I use my blog very often to write reports of our meetings and other >> activities, So it is an important tool for me and the memory of our group. > > Thank you both! It seems both of you find consensus on that the blog > platform is for group communication, rather than personal > communication. Allow me to draw your attention to this passage in the > mail I forwarded: > >> As we take this decision, we've also begun thinking about what we >> really liked about the blog platform. We liked that there was, for >> many blogs, a common theme identifying them as blogs from our >> community. We liked they were easily syndicated on our planet[1]. We >> liked how easy it was for a new volunteer in a local group to start >> writing about what happened in the group. > > Which seems to be connected to what you're talking about. What I get > from this discussion is we should actually have something that meet > these needs *before* we do anything with the current platform. > > What I've been thinking in this regard is we could have a single > instance Wordpress (or similar) which every Fellow has an account in. > This Wordpress would be the platform for communication and blogging > about what is happening within the FSFE and would have a common and > single theme. > > Each author could have an "Author's section" (ie., "show all posts by > stehmann") where their blog posts appear. But group coordinators and > others could also promote their blog posts to the front page, which > would provide the planet-like overview of the main activities. If > some individual Fellow posts a blog post about Fellowship activities, > this could also be promoted to the front page. > > This all needs some work, and it may need to be language aware (I > would *love* if all outside communication from the FSFE was available > in English, but posts may need to be in a local language too). > > Florian, since you offered to help, I'll start a separate thread with > our systems administrator and outline the above there too, and you can > weigh in on what you think would be doable. Thanks so much! > > Sincerely, > > -- > Jonas Öberg, Executive Director > Free Software Foundation Europe | [email protected] > Your donation enables our work (fsfe.org/donate) > > > Nach entsprechenden Eingaben ist dies wohl der letzte Stand von Jonas > Überlegungen: > > -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht -------- > Betreff: Re: Thoughts about our blog platform > Datum: Sat, 16 Apr 2016 09:39:00 +0200 > Von: Jonas Oberg <[email protected]> > An: Florian Snow <[email protected]> > Kopie (CC): Dr. Michael Stehmann <[email protected]>, > [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], > [email protected], [email protected] > > Hi Florian, > >> I think these are two separate issues and they are both important. > > I think you're right about them being separate, but I disagree about > the communication structure :-) My main concern is this: > >> The Wordpress instance is for people who are unable or >> unwilling to set up their own blogging platform. > > This is what I don't quite agree with: I think the Wordpress instance > (blogs.fsfe.org) has a specific communication purpose, I don't think > the FSFE should have the role to setup technical infrastructures for > people who are unable or unwilling to do so themselves: then we become > a service provider. > > I see it as blogs.fsfe.org is where we all write about what's > happening in the FSFE. It's where someone from a Fellowship group > would write to report from a local meeting, it's where I would write > to introduce a new intern, or similarly. > > The planet.fsfe.org I see as the aggregation of both what's happening > internally, but also what's happening in our community at large, which > is not necessarily related to the FSFE. If someone writes a blog post > (anywhere) about their latest explorations with Arch, this should > probably be syndicated on planet.fsfe.org, but it wouldn't necessarily > be on the front page of blogs.fsfe.org. > > There is an overlap: if someone really does not want to have their own > blog, but would want to write about their explorations with free > software on blogs.fsfe.org, they could do so, and it would be > syndicated on planet.fsfe.org, but they would only promote the clearly > FSFE related posts to the front page. > > I hope that makes sense as an explanation of how I'm thinking :) > > -- > Jonas Öberg, Executive Director > Free Software Foundation Europe | [email protected] > Your donation enables our work (fsfe.org/donate) > > Es gab noch weitere E-Mails in dem Teilnehmerkreis der ersten E-Mail; > aber ich denke, der Stand der Überlegungen von Jonas wird aus den > vorstehenden ersichtlich. > > Lasst uns _diese_ Sache zu einem guten Ende bringen! > > Wir können und sollten danach auch über das Prozedere zusammen mit Jonas > und allen Teilnehmern reflektieren, um daraus für die Zukunft Lehren zu > ziehen. > > Gruß > Michael > > > > > _______________________________________________ > fsfe-de mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-de _______________________________________________ fsfe-de mailing list [email protected] https://mail.fsfeurope.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-de
