Alex Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Thu, 2006-05-11 at 07:27 +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > > Are you claiming the FDL only covers the copying, not the > > copyright (clearly nuts IMO: it's a copyright licence) > > Nope, I'm not claiming that. There are things other than copying that > are covered by copyright. But that sentence above still stands: if I > haven't given someone a copy of the document, I don't have an obligation > to them.
As you know, your obligation under the FDL is to the licensor, not people that you give a copy. You can argue that the licensor will never find out, but that seems like advocating jumping red lights late at night when no-one is around: possibly justifiable and popularly accepted, but still illegal. > > and that modifying a copy isn't partly making the modified copy > > (possible, but I've never found any evidence for that)? > > It may come down to the process involved, but in general modifying a > file isn't making a copy. I don't see any reason why it wouldn't be > treated the same as modifying something physical: even if there were a Exactly! The modification of the copy is part of its making. I do not claim it is making another copy, but part of making that copy. (This damned ambiguous language bites me again...) > copy made in RAM or something while you modified it, it would be treated > as temporary and "an integral and essential part of a technological > process" (Copyright & Related Rights Act, 2003). As such, still subject to copyright. Although maybe we have non-licence permissions that would help us in England, I don't think they are yet part of the Berne treaty or similar. I doubt they'll be in the extremely hazardous WIPO one currently making its way towards us. (For more on that, see past posts in <http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/random-bits/> and help!) > The file permissions thing is possibly a red herring, I don't think it > would even count as modification of the work. That's not true for all DRM, but it's not far from the Tivo trouble. -- MJ Ray - personal email, see http://mjr.towers.org.uk/email.html Work: http://www.ttllp.co.uk/ irc.oftc.net/slef Jabber/SIP ask _______________________________________________ Fsfe-uk mailing list [email protected] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/fsfe-uk
