That's why I wrote 'before 2003'... reading is difficult, arrogance is
easy I see in your response, the arrogance of a Symantec I would like to
say, but you still interest me ;-)
I see differences, it's called delayed disclosure and it's called
symantec (who has more securityproblems with it's own products than any
other security software supplier(?) :-) and it's called $ to pay for
information which used to be free before securityfocus 'went commercial'
http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2002-July/000143.html
remember? that's the moment you went rich and blind :-)
if you don't see it, all that yellow stuff is blinding you or the money
is blinding you
did the people who contributed to securityfocus got paid when you
received all those US$ ?
ok that's old cows, let's leave that because we're grownups... at least
we say we are
do you remember why this full-disclosure list was started in the first
place?
I do... undelayed, unmoderated, uncensored, disclosure, full if you
want, room for discussions etc
Why would we need another @securityfocus list if we already have this
full disclosure list... that's whay I wrote between the lines ;-)
Securityfocus.com was great... until it was bought by Symantec... I saw
you come, be and die
My opinion, if you don't like it... well... that's life
Alfred Huger wrote:
Frank,
It was acquired in 2002 not 2003. If you can actually point to
anything differant other than aesthetics I'd be happy to talk about it
and even work to change it if it's got merit. I've been here since the
begining - given I started it - and I really see little or any
differance pre vrs. post Symantec.
-al
On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, Frank de Wit wrote:
todo?
quit symantec
restart the real securityfocus as it was before 2003
start fulldisclosure...
Alfred Huger wrote:
All,
As most of you know, some of the strongest value the SecurityFocus
community has to offer is that of our mailing lists. These lists
contribute a vast amount of information and dialogue to the
community at
large but they are generally held within a finite amount of lists,
which
changes little (in terms of # of lists) over time. Given this is the
case
we, every few years, make a call for new mailing lists from the
community.
I would like to invite you to send me your thoughts on which new
mailing lists we should start here. Based off the feedback we
receive I believe we will launch a number of new lists in the late
September timeframe. I also urge you to consider becoming a
moderator for the list(s) you suggest because as a community we are
only viable if we all make an effort to participate..
Regards,
Alfred
Alfred Huger
Symantec Corp.
Sr. Director, Engineering
Response & Global Managed Security Services
Alfred Huger
Symantec Corp.
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