yeah if i still care in 25 years then we'll see. is everything going to be declassified after 25 years in usa ? or does certain stuff stay classified ? i dont know how that works overthere so i thought i'd ask :)
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jamie C. Pole" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "GroundZero Security" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [Clips] A small editorialaboutrecentevents.(fwd) > > Okay. > > Here is the fundamental problem - we do not know the circumstances > under which the extralegal wiretaps were conducted. It is highly > likely that the wiretaps did save lives - maybe even German lives. > That is the point I have been trying to make all night. There are > certain aspects of the operations of any government (even a Republic > like the USA) that the general citizenry does not need to be privy > to. I believe this to be one of those aspects. When this material > is declassified in 25 years, we'll all know whether or not this was > worth it. > > You are not going to convince me that my country is an evil place > with designs on controlling or destroying the entire world, and I'm > obviously not going to convince you that it isn't. > > Jamie > > > > On Dec 19, 2005, at 12:29 AM, GroundZero Security wrote: > > > > let me put it this way. if you break the law to rescue people noone > > would bitch about it. > > that always happens that people bend the rules to rescue people. > > thats perfectly fine but invading someones privacy is something > > different. > > the usa can invade any other country, but refuses to "invade" one > > of their own states for the > > only purpose to help its people without weapons but food? thats > > redicilous. the usa got so much > > power under their ass, but you want to tell me that the gov cant do > > anything if one of its states > > refuses help ? if the gov really would have wanted they could have > > helped. > > well at least you seem to agree on that this is wrong. > > > >> And had he done that, the liberals would very likely now be asking > >> whether or not it was legal for him to have done so. For the people > >> that hate President Bush, nothing he does or does not do will be > >> acceptable. It's as simple as that. > > > > sure, but if he would have done that it would be way less people > > bitching. > > the whole world would have seen bush or the u.s gov cares so much > > about their peoples > > lifes and safety that they bend the rules in order to protect them. > > for once bush could > > have had a good picture in the world media. so while you would have > > a handfull that > > hate bush anyways arguing about the law (which wouldnt help them as > > the u.s. court wouldnt listen), > > you now got the whole world asking why the fuck they didnt react > > and tons of american people > > who feel left alone. i feel sorry for those poor americans. soon > > your rights will be all gone > > because 'It's just a goddamned piece of paper' no ? > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
