Actually MOST states in the US require that you have a photo ID if you are over the age of 18. It can be A Driver License or it can be a generic state issued ID. As far as air travel is concerned, a quick looks see gave me this: http://www.tsa.gov/public/display?content=090005198004a900
Personally I do not mid the requirement for an ID for air/bus/train travel. But if I am driving say from Illinois to Arizona I do not want to stop at every single states (border) line and show my ID. That would be ridiculous. But for the safety of myself and others on a mass transit I feel it is fair game. IF you do not like it drive. If the airlines start to require a biometric ID (DNA based or otherwise) then I will complain that is way to far over board. But asking you for your passport, DL/or state Id no big deal. -- Leif On Thu, 2005-12-29 at 13:56 -0600, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On December 29, 2005 2:05:23 PM -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 08:04:43 CST, Leif Ericksen said: > >> There are those laws that are direct and clear cut, and there are the > >> ones that takes an act of congress to decide what is legal or not. ;) > > > > And then there are those you're not allowed to even *see*. In Gilmore v. > > Ashcroft, the Department of Justice finally consented to allow a *judge* > > with a security clearance to see the text of the law, but Gilmore and his > > attorneys are still denied access to what the law says. > > That's a silly misrepresentation of the facts of the case. There *is* no > law requiring the presentation of ID at an airport. There *is* a law that > makes it illegal to hijack a plane, and there *are* security directives, > issued by the FAA, which define the means and methods by which the law will > be enforced. Among those is the requirement to show ID upon request. The > security directives are secret because you don't show your hand to the > enemy (except if you work for the New York Times.) > > Mr. Gilmore, who is an activist civil libertarian, deliberately entered an > airport without an form of ID, then refused to produce ID when requested. > When he was then asked to undergo a more thorough screening, he refused > that as well. He was then arrested and removed from the airport. > > Every airport has signs everywhere instructing you to provide a photo ID. > Only someone who was deliberately trying to disrupt the system would enter > an airport with ID, refuse to show ID, refuse a thorough screening, and > then complain when they were arrested - after which they file a lawsuit for > large money damages. > > So, while everybody eagerly portrays Mr. Gilmore as an innocent citizen > just trying to about his daily life, he was far from it, knew when he > entered the airport he was going to cause trouble, deliberately chose to do > so anyway and now whines about his rights being violated. > > Paul Schmehl ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Adjunct Information Security Officer > University of Texas at Dallas > AVIEN Founding Member > http://www.utdallas.edu/ > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -- Leif Ericksen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
