i'm sorry that you don't agree with my heads up theory, i stand by what i said however. i'm sure microsoft don't read full-disclosure anyway, so you're right i'm not going to change anything. by the way, i've noticed you haven't stopped stalking me yet, im a bit concerned about your health. cheers.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:44 AM, Ureleet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > first off, u arent going to get any1 2 change anything. so, lets get > that out of the way right there. > > second of all, in order for u 2 prove ur point, id like 4 u to go to > some research of how many exploits have come out during the 5 day > period between vague-ass disclosure and patch publish. then compare > and contrast that against how many exploits have come out in the 24 > hours following the patch publish after people have had a chance to do > bindiffs (u know what that means right white-hat?) against the > patches. then, take all that data, draw some charts and graphs, write > a whitepaper, and present it somewhere. > > u know what thats called? research. real ppl do it. > > u dont. and that is why, u suck. ta ta. > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:34 PM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> so you don't think its logical that these 5 day heads up could be >> helping the bad guys out? right. i think the world's biggest hackers >> could do a lot of research in 5 days. but then again n3td3v isn't >> logical so i must be wrong. damn those drugs eh? i just asked what the >> realistic possibility was for a 5 day turn around from the day of the >> heads up until a patch is released. i just thought it was bad that we >> were giving the bad guys a 5 day head start, but never mind n3td3v >> isn't logical so i must be wrong. scraping the 5 day head start isn't >> a good idea because n3td3v isn't logical? right, i threw away 10 years >> of my life to not be logical... >> >> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 1:20 AM, waveroad waveroad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> You can be ""monitoring"" the scene since 20 years if you want to, it's not >>> for that your point will be valuable. >>> And actually it is not, also this is about logic. >>> >>> See you're wrong again. >>> >>> Get the fuck out of here. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2008/11/6, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>> >>>> i've been monitoring the scene since 1999 so what do you mean no >>>> experience? i make that about 10 years experience if my math is >>>> correct. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 12:48 AM, Biz Marqee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> > Do you even understand why people dont like you? It is because you have >>>> > all >>>> > these crackpot ideas but no experience to back it up. All your ideas >>>> > only >>>> > make sense from a theoretical standpoint, but in practicality most will >>>> > fail. >>>> > >>>> >>>> > On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 11:31 AM, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> >> >>>> >> blackhats like you will always hate on me, so i just ignore the >>>> >> negative responses i get. >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >>> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >>> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
