yeah, yeah... I know it's painful to hear the truth. On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:03 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman < [email protected]> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA512 > > yeah, yeah.. > > Avraham Schneider wrote: > > > > > > On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > > > Oh come on, who gives a real fuck... god doesn't exist anyway. > > Religion is an excuse to dominate > > simple minds. > > > >> At least 178 Jews and persons of half- or three-quarters-Jewish ancestry > >> have been awarded the Nobel Prize,1 accounting for 23% of all individual > >> recipients worldwide between 1901 and 2008, and constituting 37% of all > >> US recipients2 during the same period. In the scientific research > >> fields of Chemistry, Economics, Medicine, and Physics, the corresponding > >> world and US percentages are 27% and 40%, respectively. (Jews currently > >> make up approximately 0.25% of the world's population and 2% of the US > >> population.) > > > >> Considering Jews are testifying to the existence of G-d - I would say it > >> is hard to make your claim under these results... > > > > > > > > Avraham Schneider wrote: > > > > > >> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Alaa Abdelwahab > > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > >> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> > > wrote: > > > >> Avraham, > > > >> With all respect to your point, thanks to use a better language > > > >> I did not deny that the Jewish ppl exist since what ever many > > years, but > >> does that mean they have to own the whole land now? > > > >> They owned the land - it was conquered from them - they got it > > back - so > >> yes, they have the right for the whole land now. > > > > > >> I think this just give them the right to live and own their lands, > >> without denying the same right > >> for Christians and Muslims who used to live there as well for > >> thousands of years even before the existence of the idea of > > the states. > > > >> The Arabs did not live there for thousands of years. > >> Israel never denied Christians or Muslims from living in Israel, proof > >> is in the large number of Israeli-Arabs (including Arab Knesset > > members). > >> The Palestinians in the occupied territories were not born there - > > they > >> were refugees from Arab countries that either fled there during the > >> war(s) with the Arab countries (that were defeated) or Arabs that > >> entered the land after the Arab leaders promised that Israel would be > >> defeated - something that did not happen. > >> When Israel signed peace agreements with Egypt and Jordan - the later > >> made it clear they do not want those Arabs back - did you ever wonder > >> why? Don't they care for their fellow Arabs? > > > > > > > >> There might be a wrong popular idea that Arabs have a problem with > >> Jewish, > >> they only have a problem with Israel, and as you said when Muslims > >> control > >> the area, they didn't kick the Jewish out of it, in contrary > > to what > >> Europe > >> did before with Jewish and what Israel is doing now with > > Palestinians. > > > >> The following is the text of the Hamas spokesman's call for > > genocide of > >> Jews, the Hamas spokesman, Dr. Ismail Radwan, on Palestinian Authority > >> TV, on March 30, 2007: > > > >> "The Hour [Resurrection] will not take place until the Muslims > > fight the > >> Jews and the Muslims kill them, and the rock and the tree will > > say: Oh, > >> Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, kill him!' > > > >> I think that proves you wrong. > > > > > > > >> The Idea is to live and let others live as well. > > > >> Didn't we try that? What about the Oslo agreement? 100% of the > > land the > >> Palestinians wanted was given to them - for peace. > >> The 'favor' we got in return was daily rocket attacks from civilian > >> population that support the terrorists firing them. > > > > > > > >> Regarding the War idea you are talking about, you mean that you > >> agree with > >> aggressive force usage. So we live in a jungle, who ever own > > the power > >> should kill every one before they have the same power. > >> I'm surprised from your idea. > > > >> In reality (call it a jungle if you like) - no country would > > accept the > >> daily firing of rockets on it's civilian population. > >> Imagine Mexico's drug cartels being voted in as elect government > > by 90% > >> of Mexican people - and them deciding to get California back from the > >> U.S. - then starting to shoot low-grade rockets at San-Diego. > >> How do you think the U.S. would react? > >> How do you expect the U.S. to react? > > > > > > > >> So you want to say that it was a big mistake that Muslims didn't > >> kill all > >> Christians and Jewish when they were much more powerful and > > they had the > >> chance? No that is not acceptable we are civilized ppl and we > >> believe that > >> we all should live in peace and equally treat ppl regardless their > >> religion, > >> color, origin ...etc > > > >> They converted many by the sword and killed those who would not > > convert > >> - they didn't succeed but they tried. > > > > > > > >> The history is saying that no one keep the power for long, so > > don't > >> built > >> the hate or you are going to pay for it. > > > >> History shows the Jews are victorious at the end. Large empires > > rise and > >> fall - but at the end of the day, the Jews are right and justice > > prevails. > > > > > > > > > >> Hope that you will not change your idea when positions will be > > changed. > > > >> You assume 'positions' will change - I don't see that happening... > >> regardless I have G-d on my side so I have nothing to be afraid. > > > > > > > >> But we will never change our idea. > > > >> I know - story has it's Mr. Evil - in the story of reality today Mr. > >> Evil is played by radical Islam. I hope it is the last Mr. Evil the > >> world has to deal with. > > > > > > > > > >> Brgds...Alaa > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > > > - -- > Arturo "Buanzo" Busleiman > Independent Linux and Security Consultant - SANS - OISSG - OWASP > http://www.buanzo.com.ar/pro/eng.html > Mailing List Archives at http://archiver.mailfighter.net > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQFJYN3TAlpOsGhXcE0RCrIfAJ9LvYj0TdWr3G4necpPfstE9wtBJwCeLRkv > iWNHSjgnFTtCspm5EtRU7E4= > =jMza > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >
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