Why do you speak of yourself in quotes? It makes you look batshit insane. Andrew Wallace sounds like a terrorist. He's psychologically projecting.
n3td3v could be a legitimate cyber threat, in my opinion. He's a _creepy_ person. --- n3td3v <[email protected]> schrieb am Fr, 4.12.2009: Von: n3td3v <[email protected]> Betreff: Re: [Full-disclosure] The Cyber War Conspiracy An: "Sam Haldorf" <[email protected]>, [email protected] Datum: Freitag, 4. Dezember 2009, 23:28 You're a paranoid schizophrenic if you think "n3td3v" is all of those people and / or a threat to anyone. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Sam Haldorf <[email protected]> wrote: > > What? Don't contact me you sick pervert. > > Someone please find out this subjects address and notify the government of > him. Jesus. > > Take it from Mr. Wallace, "If you suspect it, report it: 0800 789 321" > > n3td3v is probably ureleet, full-censorship, full-disclosure, antisec, jdl > and valdis. > > Please don't contact me. You're really scary. > > Take your medication and kindly leave. > > --- [email protected] <[email protected]> schrieb am > Di, 1.12.2009: > > Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Betreff: Re: AW: [Full-disclosure] The Cyber War Conspiracy > An: [email protected], [email protected] > Datum: Dienstag, 1. Dezember 2009, 5:51 > > I bet you to it mate but good troll attempt all the same ;) > > http://lists.grok.org.uk/pipermail/full-disclosure/2008-September/064425.html > > Hey Sam, amma let you finish, but n3td3v was the best troll of all time! > > -------- Original Message -------- > From: Sam Haldorf <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Cc: [email protected] > Subject: AW: [Full-disclosure] The Cyber War Conspiracy > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 11:08:49 -0800 (PST) > > > This is just doing too far. > > He's obviously a paranoid schizophrenic who uses aliases to bring attention > to himself. This means he's a loose cannon. A potential lone wolf terrorist. > Who knows, he may decide to do something nasty to bring attention to his > causes. > > It's obvious as Andrew Wallace's paranoia grows, his interest is going from > infosec (trolling FD) to real life. He may to adapt his attention-seeking MO > to real life, where he may harm real people. See what I mean? > > You know what you have to do. > > http://preview.tinyurl.com/report-n3td3v-to-MI5 > > Paste his paranoid ramblings in there. This will help the government prevent > n3td3v from causing harm. They will keep a good eye on him. > > Warning: Do _not_ lie or in anyway misrepresent the truth when reporting him. > Just state the obvious if you do infact consider him a threat. Which I > obviously do. > > Thank you, > Sam H > > --- [email protected] <[email protected]> schrieb am > Mo, 30.11.2009: > > Von: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Betreff: [Full-disclosure] The Cyber War Conspiracy > An: [email protected] > Datum: Montag, 30. November 2009, 10:45 > > It is my understanding the "security industry" would like nothing better than > a cyber war to kick off, mass profit, mass employment, mass political capital > to hit "cyber security" into the main stream of society to strike at the > heart of the single mom and retired couple crowd. > > Cyber War is a touchy subject if you ask any "security professional" they > don't like people saying straight out "cyber war is bullshit". They get > emotional about it, its as if they want it to happen. I see a build up > towards "Cyber War", the people in power such as Gadi Evron, he wants a Cyber > War its all he talks about. He was the first person to draw conclusions out > of fine air and were quick to blame the Russians for Estonia, even though > there was no evidence. > > Just like 9/11, you knew it was an inside job because they announced within > 24 hours they _knew_ it was Al-Qaeda even though they weren't able to stop > the attack if they knew so much about it. > > Estonia turned out to be a kid in his bedroom with some bot net command & > control, not the actual work of a super power. > > SANS want Cyber War, they asked the CIA to come to their SCADA conference in > 2008 to puke up a bunch of non-sense that Hackers had darkened cities, infact > the event never happened or took place it was shear propaganda, misleading > bullshit to build up the path for "Cyber War". > > "No cyberwar yet, but soon, says firm" a headline says on Securityfocus--- > This is a warning that something bad is about to happen. A cyber 9/11? The > security industry need cyber war, the hacker scene is falling flat before our > eyes there is no spectacular-event happened for a while, virus outbreaks and > worms just don't happen like they used to to keep "cyber security" in high > profile. > > The pro-propaganda for "cyber security" is running out, the security industry > is crying out for a cyber 9/11 scale event and thats what scares me. > > One of the first things Obama took seriously when he went into the White > House was Cyber Security, and remember the Marcus Sachs video even before the > election, you could hear it in his words, you could see it in his body > language, folks in power in cyber security want to get cyber security into > the main stream media. Marcus Sachs asked how can we put cyber security > infront of the media? Cyber security isn't something that is talked about in > the media, how can we put it infront of the media and the next > administration, he said. > > I trust Marcus Sachs like I trust a convicted paedophile. People like Joel > Esler tried to defend him to me, how can you say such things about such a > nice guy. But isn't everyone a nice guy on the surface? It's not until you > really dig in and see the other side to a person and everyone has another > side to them. > > If people like Marcus Sachs are advising Obama right now on cyber security, > be afraid very afraid. Remember this is the guy who has a picture of himself > shaking the hand of George W. Bush on his home page, and smiling about it. > > Because I said all this stuff previously I was attacked on this list, got > banned by John Cartwright... there is a cover-up going on. My conclusions > aren't sharp but they were on the right course, and they didn't want to risk > the chance that I got something accurate, so they setup a bunch of aliases on > here to provoke me into "troll style", to get people to think I was just an > annoying twat and no value to this mailing list. > > The same people tried to say I was some screwball etc, desperately trying to > get folks not to take anything I say seriously. > > They even tried to say I was anti-sec, yes "Ureleet" alias, remember him? He > is to do with people who are involved with the people im accusing of building > up towards cyber war. He isn't a random person, he is involved and scared > that I or the British government might be onto them, they are running scared. > Even the slightest mention of MI5 / MI6 sent them running scared that they > have been rumbled and infiltrated by human assets. > > I'm serious about cyber security im not a troll and never was, I do have a > vested interest in this stuff and I do want to collaborate or get hired with > British intelligence to burst this plot wide open and expose the people > involved in wanting a cyber 9/11. > > So this email address will be banned, more sponsored aliases will come along > to make fun of n3td3v, post fake psychological profiles and the such for the > next 11 months? > > This is people not trying to stop some kid called "n3td3v" this is a mass > campaign against me, from the early days of the Neal Krawetz and > Securityfocus effort to trash me, to the recent Ureleet and John Cartwright > trying to trash me. > > Remember that jdl guy at the hushmail address who had the subject header > "impersonation is against the law", that was a subject header I had been > sending to John Cartwright to get something done about folks, then suddenly > the jdl alias comes onto the list with exactly the same header. > > Coincidence? is it hell. John Cartwright is in on it, Ureleet is connected to > John Cartwright and there is a conspiracy to gag me because I was touching > home too many truths about the build up towards cyber war and the people > behind the plot for a cyber 9/11. > > It's not kids in their bedrooms with the anti-n3td3v aliases, its these guys > in the suits conspiring to carry out a cyber 9/11. > > The aliases against me, they aren't kids. They are grown men security > professionals, the same men who don't like being called out and can't even > use their real names in their campaign against me. I openly post with my real > name to criticize and still would be using my real name, accept it got banned > by John Cartwright, the guy who hides behind grok.org.uk and nobody knows > anything about, hiding in the shadows while banning anyone from this list who > remotely gets close to the political truth. > > If you look back to January 2009 when "n3td3v" got banned it was exactly at > the point where I wasn't believing in cyber war. I am the only person to be > banned from this mailing list, you've got to ask yourself why. All I done was > "full disclosure" which is what this list is about, but the people in power > don't like it when its full disclosure of them not other people. > > Like the Mossad and Funsec, they don't like that mentioned on full > disclosure. It's full disclosure of information, but because it involves > something not liked because it exposes them, then its not accepted. > > You need to look into the real reasons n3td3v got banned and its nothing to > do with what you think is the reason of someone with no value to the mailing > list. Who dare say which disclosures are value and who's aren't. > > So already you're seeing evidence this mailing list is corrupt and the person > running it panicking because his friends over at SANS and other places are > being exposed for their crave for cyber war and a cyber 9/11 event to take > place. > > Valdis isn't a random person either, hes proved hes pro-cyber war with a > vested interest against me saying any of this stuff. > > Look at the people against me, then investigate their role in the ring of > power thats developing in the cyber security vaccum. > > This is probably the last you'll see of the real n3td3v because there is sure > to be a contract killer out to silence me. > > There have already been discreet warnings, like in the mp3 that was posted by > <vomithatsteve () yahoo com>, it said mi6 were going to kill me, they > actually ment U.S Intelligence, but put MI6 in its place just to screw with > British Intelligence even more. > > And the warning by - o z - <osgo () hotmail com> and reposted by sahalderf at > ymail.com that said "Solutions: There's a few, but I wouldn't want to be > responsible for the end result" > > If I was just some kid troll, would any of this have gone on for so long? How > many years is it now? There will be no let down, there has been no trolling > apart from the times the sponsored aliases have frustrated me into a flame to > distract me from posting what I wanted to post that was hitting the political > truth too much. > > There is more going on than you can see, this is a war at the moment of words > because there are vested interest groups out there wanting cyber war to > advance the security industry, while there are people like me who are > monitoring these guys and seeing their intentions and they don't like anyone > who is exposing them and me wanting to stop them from carrying out > cyber-war/terrorism to advance the security industry. > > Expect more people impersonating me, signing as my real life name etc... mock > psycho analysis emails being post by people who are too cowardly to use their > real name, they aren't kids, they are the political elite trying to make sure > anything I say is trashed. > > I am saving the world from the people who claim to be saving the world, but > how can they be saving the world if they are planning a cyber event to push > forward the advancement of the cyber security industry? > > Cue all the sponsored aliases who are out to get me, by the time you read > this email address will already be banned. > > Just listen to the State of the Internet 2009 panel podcast by SANS, they got > an audience to laugh out loud when they kept mentioning my n3td3v name, the > recording is available on the internet as a podcast, this isn't just people > annoyed about some kid on full-disclosure mailing list, this is part of a > sophisticated campaign against me which started in 2006. > > This is unprecedented the amount of effort gone into trashing some apparent > kid called "n3td3v", if I was just some kid they wouldn't be going to the > lengths they have to trash me. > > This mailing list is part of corruption, the corruption that is covering up > n3td3v and sweeping him under the carpet and throwing him away. > > My last words to you is, don't let this matter rest, they have got rid of > n3td3v, but there are bound to be people who will investigate what im saying, > and I hope they do. Because my last request before I finish this rant is, > don't forget the things ive been talking about and continue to investigate > people while im gone. > > This is serious the political elite are planning a cyber-event and it seems > nobody is out to stop it or being proactive about raising concern about it > apart from me. > > I'm the only one ranting about this stuff, but why haven't we got more people > sounding the alarm the alarm that the build up is happening and there is > nothing to stop it. > > I was banned in January, isn't it strange 11 months later the political elite > still have their sponsored aliases trying to run "n3td3v" completely into the > ground. They even impersonated my real name and a British intelligence > agency, and who's always been right behind anti-n3td3v aliases as a back up > reply? Yes Valdis, hes always there, always there to reply to give support to > them. > > All I say is investigate whats going on against this so-called kid called > n3td3v, surely there is more to it than just trying to get me off a mailing > list cause of some "noise" excuse. > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! Mail verfügt über einen herausragenden Schutz > gegen Massenmails. > http://mail.yahoo.com > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Sie sind Spam leid? Yahoo! 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