I don't know whether it is tragic, or tragi-comic, that N3tty has clearly been sat around foaming at the mouth at the stark realization that he is banned from this mailing list since January 2009, and conducting ever-more-elaborate fantasies in his mind as to what is going on in the world. Seriously, this guy needs to get a life, a job, or a Facebook account, or something, because he is clearly well off the map.
If you're desperate, I can pay you to come and monitor my IronPort for me. It's security-related, and it'll keep you from hanging around worrying about contract killers. Regards, JR 2009/11/30 <[email protected]> > It is my understanding the "security industry" would like nothing better > than a cyber war to kick off, mass profit, mass employment, mass political > capital to hit "cyber security" into the main stream of society to strike at > the heart of the single mom and retired couple crowd. > > Cyber War is a touchy subject if you ask any "security professional" they > don't like people saying straight out "cyber war is bullshit". They get > emotional about it, its as if they want it to happen. I see a build up > towards "Cyber War", the people in power such as Gadi Evron, he wants a > Cyber War its all he talks about. He was the first person to draw > conclusions out of fine air and were quick to blame the Russians for > Estonia, even though there was no evidence. > > Just like 9/11, you knew it was an inside job because they announced within > 24 hours they _knew_ it was Al-Qaeda even though they weren't able to stop > the attack if they knew so much about it. > > Estonia turned out to be a kid in his bedroom with some bot net command & > control, not the actual work of a super power. > > SANS want Cyber War, they asked the CIA to come to their SCADA conference > in 2008 to puke up a bunch of non-sense that Hackers had darkened cities, > infact the event never happened or took place it was shear propaganda, > misleading bullshit to build up the path for "Cyber War". > > "No cyberwar yet, but soon, says firm" a headline says on Securityfocus--- > This is a warning that something bad is about to happen. A cyber 9/11? The > security industry need cyber war, the hacker scene is falling flat before > our eyes there is no spectacular-event happened for a while, virus outbreaks > and worms just don't happen like they used to to keep "cyber security" in > high profile. > > The pro-propaganda for "cyber security" is running out, the security > industry is crying out for a cyber 9/11 scale event and thats what scares > me. > > One of the first things Obama took seriously when he went into the White > House was Cyber Security, and remember the Marcus Sachs video even before > the election, you could hear it in his words, you could see it in his body > language, folks in power in cyber security want to get cyber security into > the main stream media. Marcus Sachs asked how can we put cyber security > infront of the media? Cyber security isn't something that is talked about in > the media, how can we put it infront of the media and the next > administration, he said. > > I trust Marcus Sachs like I trust a convicted paedophile. People like Joel > Esler tried to defend him to me, how can you say such things about such a > nice guy. But isn't everyone a nice guy on the surface? It's not until you > really dig in and see the other side to a person and everyone has another > side to them. > > If people like Marcus Sachs are advising Obama right now on cyber security, > be afraid very afraid. Remember this is the guy who has a picture of himself > shaking the hand of George W. Bush on his home page, and smiling about it. > > Because I said all this stuff previously I was attacked on this list, got > banned by John Cartwright... there is a cover-up going on. My conclusions > aren't sharp but they were on the right course, and they didn't want to risk > the chance that I got something accurate, so they setup a bunch of aliases > on here to provoke me into "troll style", to get people to think I was just > an annoying twat and no value to this mailing list. > > The same people tried to say I was some screwball etc, desperately trying > to get folks not to take anything I say seriously. > > They even tried to say I was anti-sec, yes "Ureleet" alias, remember him? > He is to do with people who are involved with the people im accusing of > building up towards cyber war. He isn't a random person, he is involved and > scared that I or the British government might be onto them, they are running > scared. Even the slightest mention of MI5 / MI6 sent them running scared > that they have been rumbled and infiltrated by human assets. > > I'm serious about cyber security im not a troll and never was, I do have a > vested interest in this stuff and I do want to collaborate or get hired with > British intelligence to burst this plot wide open and expose the people > involved in wanting a cyber 9/11. > > So this email address will be banned, more sponsored aliases will come > along to make fun of n3td3v, post fake psychological profiles and the such > for the next 11 months? > > This is people not trying to stop some kid called "n3td3v" this is a mass > campaign against me, from the early days of the Neal Krawetz and > Securityfocus effort to trash me, to the recent Ureleet and John Cartwright > trying to trash me. > > Remember that jdl guy at the hushmail address who had the subject header > "impersonation is against the law", that was a subject header I had been > sending to John Cartwright to get something done about folks, then suddenly > the jdl alias comes onto the list with exactly the same header. > > Coincidence? is it hell. John Cartwright is in on it, Ureleet is connected > to John Cartwright and there is a conspiracy to gag me because I was > touching home too many truths about the build up towards cyber war and the > people behind the plot for a cyber 9/11. > > It's not kids in their bedrooms with the anti-n3td3v aliases, its these > guys in the suits conspiring to carry out a cyber 9/11. > > The aliases against me, they aren't kids. They are grown men security > professionals, the same men who don't like being called out and can't even > use their real names in their campaign against me. I openly post with my > real name to criticize and still would be using my real name, accept it got > banned by John Cartwright, the guy who hides behind grok.org.uk and nobody > knows anything about, hiding in the shadows while banning anyone from this > list who remotely gets close to the political truth. > > If you look back to January 2009 when "n3td3v" got banned it was exactly at > the point where I wasn't believing in cyber war. I am the only person to be > banned from this mailing list, you've got to ask yourself why. All I done > was "full disclosure" which is what this list is about, but the people in > power don't like it when its full disclosure of them not other people. > > Like the Mossad and Funsec, they don't like that mentioned on full > disclosure. It's full disclosure of information, but because it involves > something not liked because it exposes them, then its not accepted. > > You need to look into the real reasons n3td3v got banned and its nothing to > do with what you think is the reason of someone with no value to the mailing > list. Who dare say which disclosures are value and who's aren't. > > So already you're seeing evidence this mailing list is corrupt and the > person running it panicking because his friends over at SANS and other > places are being exposed for their crave for cyber war and a cyber 9/11 > event to take place. > > Valdis isn't a random person either, hes proved hes pro-cyber war with a > vested interest against me saying any of this stuff. > > Look at the people against me, then investigate their role in the ring of > power thats developing in the cyber security vaccum. > > This is probably the last you'll see of the real n3td3v because there is > sure to be a contract killer out to silence me. > > There have already been discreet warnings, like in the mp3 that was posted > by <vomithatsteve () yahoo com>, it said mi6 were going to kill me, they > actually ment U.S Intelligence, but put MI6 in its place just to screw with > British Intelligence even more. > > And the warning by - o z - <osgo () hotmail com> and reposted by sahalderf > at ymail.com that said "Solutions: There's a few, but I wouldn't want to > be responsible for the end result" > > If I was just some kid troll, would any of this have gone on for so long? > How many years is it now? There will be no let down, there has been no > trolling apart from the times the sponsored aliases have frustrated me into > a flame to distract me from posting what I wanted to post that was hitting > the political truth too much. > > There is more going on than you can see, this is a war at the moment of > words because there are vested interest groups out there wanting cyber war > to advance the security industry, while there are people like me who are > monitoring these guys and seeing their intentions and they don't like anyone > who is exposing them and me wanting to stop them from carrying out > cyber-war/terrorism to advance the security industry. > > Expect more people impersonating me, signing as my real life name etc... > mock psycho analysis emails being post by people who are too cowardly to use > their real name, they aren't kids, they are the political elite trying to > make sure anything I say is trashed. > > I am saving the world from the people who claim to be saving the world, but > how can they be saving the world if they are planning a cyber event to push > forward the advancement of the cyber security industry? > > Cue all the sponsored aliases who are out to get me, by the time you read > this email address will already be banned. > > Just listen to the State of the Internet 2009 panel podcast by SANS, they > got an audience to laugh out loud when they kept mentioning my n3td3v name, > the recording is available on the internet as a podcast, this isn't just > people annoyed about some kid on full-disclosure mailing list, this is part > of a sophisticated campaign against me which started in 2006. > > This is unprecedented the amount of effort gone into trashing some apparent > kid called "n3td3v", if I was just some kid they wouldn't be going to the > lengths they have to trash me. > > This mailing list is part of corruption, the corruption that is covering up > n3td3v and sweeping him under the carpet and throwing him away. > > My last words to you is, don't let this matter rest, they have got rid of > n3td3v, but there are bound to be people who will investigate what im > saying, and I hope they do. Because my last request before I finish this > rant is, don't forget the things ive been talking about and continue to > investigate people while im gone. > > This is serious the political elite are planning a cyber-event and it seems > nobody is out to stop it or being proactive about raising concern about it > apart from me. > > I'm the only one ranting about this stuff, but why haven't we got more > people sounding the alarm the alarm that the build up is happening and there > is nothing to stop it. > > I was banned in January, isn't it strange 11 months later the political > elite still have their sponsored aliases trying to run "n3td3v" completely > into the ground. They even impersonated my real name and a British > intelligence agency, and who's always been right behind anti-n3td3v aliases > as a back up reply? Yes Valdis, hes always there, always there to reply to > give support to them. > > All I say is investigate whats going on against this so-called kid called > n3td3v, surely there is more to it than just trying to get me off a mailing > list cause of some "noise" excuse. > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >
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