Yahoo massager has 0days? No way! On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 8:53 AM, intel unit <[email protected]> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > back off kid > > "n3td3v" is trying to save lives here > > yahoo messenger has 0days. now if gadi evron and the mossad were to > get onto that, it wouldn't be a good thing, now would it? > > On Mon, 01 Mar 2010 08:53:53 +0000 "McGhee, Eddie" > <[email protected]> wrote: > >Come on mate seriously its getting boring, if any serious security > >threats are out there then drop the info and man up, stop with the > >bullshit of making netdev a poor internet meme, because that's all > >it is.. > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] [mailto:full- > >[email protected]] On Behalf Of intel unit > >Sent: 01 March 2010 08:06 > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [Full-disclosure] full disclosure is an intelligence > >blackhole > > > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA1 > > > >John Cartwright is perpetrating global conflict by censoring > >n3td3v's 0days and commenting. > >Opinion by Andrew Wallace. Published by a believer in free speech > >who knows Andrew Wallace is an super spy expert. Luyk a jelly > >samwich amirite? > > > > > >Is banning people from a mailing list a national security risk? > > > >We haven't been on the mailing list since January 2009, although > >there have been plenty of hackers trying to impersonate us. > > > >For sure the impersonations are misleading, and we would like to > >ask, is banning people from a mailing list a vulnerability? > > > >Let's just say we haven't been able to release any information to > >the public for over a year now. > > > >We don't have anywhere we can post information. > > > >Isn't it a security risk to ban one the biggest security & > >intelligence groups in the UK from posting? > > > >We think so, and why would you want to create a climate where > >there are plenty n3td3v wanna be's posting to the mailing list, > >but no actual intelligence on what we're upto, what we've been > >researching or anything like that. > > > >A security & intelligence group with over 6000 security > >professionals in jobs around the world who make up the n3td3v > >group, banned from making announcements relating to national > >security matters. > > > >A whole year of no information getting out to the security > >industry about the vulnerabilities in national security and other > >research that we've been getting upto. > > > >None of that has been post, its all been supressed. > > > >By who? One man decided to risk security by banning one of the > >largest security groups in the United Kingdom. > > > >We were treated badly on the mailing list, it wasn't us in the > >wrong, we only defended ourselves and the integrity of our group > >from people who were obviously wanting an argument. > > > >We aren't playing around, we are grown adults who are serious > >about security & intelligence. > > > >We were made out to be something that we weren't, its not nice to > >be treated like that. > > > >It's why the mailing list can't be taken seriously and poses a > >risk to national security. > > > >Because the people who do research security aren't able to post on > >the mailing list. > > > >And I don't know why more people haven't spoken out about an > >organisation as big as n3td3v being banned from the mailing list, > >its a risk to national security. > > > >We don't post our intelligence anywhere else apart from the > >mailing list we've been banned from, and we don't give out any > >signals intelligence about what we are getting upto, we're very > >careful about that. > > > >The only opportunity to find out what the n3td3v security and > >intelligence group were upto was being subscribed to the mailing > >list and reading our emails. > > > >Andrew is banned, and banned with that are the voices of over 6000 > >and more researchers, security consultants and many others. > > > >Is banning n3td3v from Full-disclosure mailing list a national > >security issue? Of course it is. > > > >National security has been at risk for over a year and will remain > >at risk... because the information flow has been cut off. > > > >Who will be to blame? One man who runs the mailing list, one man > >will need to live with himself, his name is John Cartwright. > > > >He has cut off a major security research and intelligence group on > >purpose, I don't think he cares about national security. > > > >Can he live with himself? > > > >We've been sitting in our offices wondering this for over a year, > >we've held security conferences with our members and other stuff > >and remain frustrated that we've been cut off from communicating > >with the security industry. > > > >Yours faithfully, > > > >n3td3v security > >& intelligence group > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > >Charset: UTF8 > >Note: This signature can be verified at > >https://www.hushtools.com/verify > >Version: Hush 3.0 > > > >wpwEAQMCAAYFAkuLdX8ACgkQwGoky+I7EouDgAP5AUjZ2+mKCx4dduWJlNWgAN8Iwnk > >L > >PqokbvRhGDeHoWCBWeTjqoYxh49Z2fzA4EIcrtmL7miGfXicLHWJyBoSriMUFL97IYe > >3 > >hAziWzbIanVTbqftrz1ayRVx0k3vdu/5Hwocda6lCmgivdLjWhrL0UaKby3LQbc1nBq > >B > >mCK69YQ= > >=xM2C > >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > >_______________________________________________ > >Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > >Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > >Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Charset: UTF8 > Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify > Version: Hush 3.0 > > wpwEAQMCAAYFAkuL1M0ACgkQwGoky+I7Eou5HwP/b8NMCeO+QHm2SZ8ysagy2MkidJ9Q > TdJ08Kh+2RmK5M7LKCPm5+D8fZPNvHF01g36Y/n3JB/K3tMoGthc9uGOL/swE1a/douN > 5j8GBaXJW9Phjr8K6Ucq0iyL7Me/PEEXSyx5op0GdlYJ6c6O2bz0X5vl/fM8I5WRAQIu > 3JwZmaw= > =XXyz > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >
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