The problem with picking the bits that they think the world needs to know is that is the point where editorialization happens. It would be against the spirit of providing a complete disclosure to trim back the data in any way.
C _______ But wait... there's no FCC on the moon! On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd] < [email protected]> wrote: > You do raise a very good argument, especially the part about "security > through obscurity". > > I don't know if Wikileaks have done a good thing or not, but rather than > release everything, they should have had someone analyse the documents, and > pick out the bits which they felt the public needed to know (anything > considered a scandal etc) .. We don't care about soldiers movements or > tactics, but an insurgent might... I see little reason why they'd need to > release all the documents, other than out of lazyness/insufficient staff to > review all the info.. > > > On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 7:08 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 13:06:15 PDT, Jonathan Medina said: >> > I am in the military, currently in Iraq, and these Wikileaks posts >> > have hurt us more than people realize. It does two things, first, it >> > demonstrates our tactics and procedures which allow insurgents to >> > conduct more effective attacks against us, >> >> I suspect that the insurgents already knew 90 to 95% of our tactics and >> procedures simply by observing how we do things. After all, most of what >> we do >> can be easily learned by a good scout with a vantage point and a good pair >> of >> binoculars. How far apart do we drive on a convoy? Which armaments are >> on the vehicles in front, at back? Which directions do the lookouts on >> the >> first and last vehicles tend to look? What formations do we use during >> house-to-house searches? These are all things that any competent >> commander has to assume the other side knows because the other side >> has good scouts and access to binoculars. Think - how much do *we* >> know about insurgent tactics even without Wikileaks posting the >> insurgent playbook? >> >> As a result, even 100% perfect knowledge of our tactics wouldn't >> translate into all *that* big an increase in attack effectiveness, unless >> hidden in that 5% is a "ventilation shaft that leads directly to the >> reactor >> core" flaw in our tactics ("Every 3rd Tuesday, we do XYZ and one very >> small >> bomb in the right place would set off a chain reaction of all the >> munitions on >> the base"). >> >> And if we have that sort of flaw in our tactics, maybe we should actually >> fix them rather than depend on security through obscurity. >> >> Just sayin'. >> >> > and >> second, the information >> > it provides to insurgents endangers our sources and the families of >> > sources that have provided us with valuable information. It also >> > provides a means of giving insurgents propaganda to use against us. >> >> I believe the "endangers our sources" part has already been debunked >> by the top leadership at the Pentagon. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> > > > > -- > > Cal Leeming > > Operational Security & Support Team > > *Out of Hours: *+44 (07534) 971120 | *Support Tickets: * > [email protected] > *Fax: *+44 (02476) 578987 | *Email: *[email protected] > *IM: *AIM / ICQ / MSN / Skype (available upon request) > Simplicity Media Ltd. All rights reserved. > Registered company number 7143564 > > > > > -- > > Cal Leeming > > Operational Security & Support Team > > *Out of Hours: *+44 (07534) 971120 | *Support Tickets: * > [email protected] > *Fax: *+44 (02476) 578987 | *Email: *[email protected] > *IM: *AIM / ICQ / MSN / Skype (available upon request) > Simplicity Media Ltd. All rights reserved. > Registered company number 7143564 > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >
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