This isn't necessarily true - without knowledge of how the data may be encrypted and what processes are involved in decrypting the data, one can't make the "it isn't secure" statement.
That being said, it is probably safe to argue that sites that do not require PCI, SOX, HIPPA, etc would be less inclined to engage in this level of security. But that doesn't mean that it is not being done. t From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mario Vilas Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:05 AM To: Romain Bourdy Cc: full-disclosure; Inc leartext Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] password.incleartext.com Actually, if they can get the data back (be it because it's stored in plaintext or in obfuscated plaintext) then it's not secure. Obfuscation doesn't make it more secure, or any less plaintext. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Romain Bourdy <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi Full-Disclosure, Just my two cents but ... the fact they can give your password back doesn't mean it's stored in cleartext, just that it's not hashed but encrypted with some way to get the original data back, this doesn't mean at all it's not secured, even though in most case it's not. -Romain On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:36 PM, <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Kinda plaintextoffenders.com<http://plaintextoffenders.com>? wbr, - Max [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> wrote on 01.04.2011 02:17:24: > Inc leartext <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent by: > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > 01.04.2011 13:14 > > To > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > cc > > Subject > > [Full-disclosure] password.incleartext.com<http://password.incleartext.com> > > Hi FD, > > Just launched a new website to keep a list of websites storing > passwords in clear text, so far the database is small but feel free > to add some: > http://password.incleartext.com/ > > Cheers, > Inc Leartext_______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -- "My daughter was asked by a little old lady in a London hotel restaurant what her daddy did - she answered, 'He's a pirate.' I was very proud of that answer." - Johnny Depp
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