Security is relative and the pwd might be handled in a secure enough fashion compared to the value of the information it is protecting, even though it is stored in a reversable fashion. But I wouldn't, generally speaking, hesitate to claim that it isn't stored securely if it is reversable.
Could you givd an example? ----- Ursprungsmeddelande ----- > This isn't necessarily true - without knowledge of how the data may be > encrypted and what processes are involved in decrypting the data, one > can't make the "it isn't secure" statement. > > That being said, it is probably safe to argue that sites that do not > require PCI, SOX, HIPPA, etc would be less inclined to engage in this > level of security. But that doesn't mean that it is not being done. > > t > > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mario > Vilas Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 9:05 AM To: Romain Bourdy > Cc: full-disclosure; Inc leartext > Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] password.incleartext.com > > Actually, if they can get the data back (be it because it's stored in > plaintext or in obfuscated plaintext) then it's not secure. Obfuscation > doesn't make it more secure, or any less plaintext. On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 > at 11:01 AM, Romain Bourdy > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi > Full-Disclosure, > > Just my two cents but ... the fact they can give your password back > doesn't mean it's stored in cleartext, just that it's not hashed but > encrypted with some way to get the original data back, this doesn't mean > at all it's not secured, even though in most case it's not. > > -Romain > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 1:36 PM, > <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Kinda > plaintextoffenders.com<http://plaintextoffenders.com>? > > wbr, > - Max > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote on 01.04.2011 02:17:24: > > > Inc leartext <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > > Sent by: > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > > 01.04.2011 13:14 > > > > To > > > > [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > > > cc > > > > Subject > > > > [Full-disclosure] > > password.incleartext.com<http://password.incleartext.com> > > > > Hi FD, > > > > Just launched a new website to keep a list of websites storing > > passwords in clear text, so far the database is small but feel free > > to add some: > > http://password.incleartext.com/ > > > > > Cheers, > > Inc Leartext_______________________________________________ > > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ > > > > -- > "My daughter was asked by a little old lady in a London hotel restaurant > what her daddy did - she answered, 'He's a pirate.' I was very proud of > that answer." - Johnny Depp
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