Yeah, let's just all ignore low insults. The world would be a much better place without them and whoever said them in the first place...
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Laurelai <[email protected]> wrote: > On 10/14/2011 2:25 PM, Christian Sciberras wrote: > > Resorting to personal attacks? Nice. > > Technical skills in what? Running a wordpress blog? Defacing a website? > Growing pot? > > I rarely publicise any materials, most of the time I just tell whoever is > responsible to do a fix. > I'm not really running after publicity, unlike you guys. > Also note that I never said I'm a seasoned hacker... in fact, my occupation > is quite on the opposite side of the spectrum... > > You also seem to know more than I do what the Ubuntu VM I have contains. > > But that must make all the difference! I mean, people that don't know > qubits from bits shouldn't be allowed in such discussions > (of course there's wikipedia...) > > > > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Georgi Guninski <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Christian Sciberras, >> >> I have trouble judging your technical skills - all I have seen is bad >> smalltalk. >> >> Do you have any technical publications you can share so I can judge? >> >> btw, the best i found was you could could reproduce a bug in a CMS and in >> addition you can't tell root from user password on vanilla ubuntu. >> >> -- >> joro >> >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 02:11:13AM +0200, Christian Sciberras wrote: >> > > So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok? >> > >> > No. But it's certainly better than doing damage without profit. Making >> > profit means that at the end of the day, the money's going to go >> somewhere >> > further in the chain. >> > Flattening a tower, for instance, or attacking the local bank that >> refused >> > to give you a loan because of the time you spent in a cell, isn't as >> > productive. >> > Neither is it making a company loose clients/profit just because they >> > decided they don't want you to use their services (as if you did have a >> > right in the first place...). >> > >> > > And yes I acknowledge the American public has a measure of >> responsibility >> > in the situation too, human beings are by nature imperfect, but the >> largest >> > share of responsibility lies with the names listed below. >> > >> > The largest share? I can see Ex-president Bush trying to sell you a >> bottle >> > of beer for $10 dollars ($7 profit). Wait, I can't. >> > >> > > That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid back every dime of >> it, >> > most people are decent human beings and would do the same. >> > >> > Most people? I could have sworn 90% of the people in the NYC subway >> would >> > thank $deity if you suddenly dropped dead so they could get things off >> you. >> > Call me cynical, but I wouldn't trust anyone else in such cases, other >> than >> > myself. >> > >> > >> > Regarding that list of yours, great! Now we just need a little more >> effort. >> > For each of those persons, please enlighten us as to what they did >> legally >> > wrong. >> > Of course, the people that landed in jail shouldn't be counted. The "99% >> > protest" is a modern one committed to change, it just can't right wrongs >> by >> > pointing at jailed people. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Laurelai <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> > >> > > On 10/13/2011 9:18 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote: >> > > >> > > I simply acknowledge the fact that some people work hard to get >> "obscenely >> > > rich", but I just can't stand people that cause damage for the fun of >> it. >> > > >> > > So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok? >> > > >> > > Yes, I stick for everyone that minds his business, instead of ruining >> > > others' for the fun of it. >> > > >> > > What bothers me is the fact that those hypocrites (protesters) are >> crying >> > > out loud against some people they're highly envious of with the excuse >> of >> > > "the depression". >> > > Well, here's the news; the famous depression has been brought about by >> > > these same people! >> > > >> > > >> > > And yes I acknowledge the American public has a measure of >> responsibility >> > > in the situation too, human beings are by nature imperfect, but the >> largest >> > > share of responsibility lies with the names listed below. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > If someone above is collecting free money because of incentives for >> > > people to spend money (and which seem to work well), I can't blame >> him. >> > > >> > > Yes because trickle down theory worked *so* well >> > > >> > > How many times in your life have you paid back something you received >> by >> > > mistake and which wasn't yours? >> > > While I would foremost applaud anyone that would right such a wrong, I >> just >> > > can't ignore the fact that those people out there representing the >> "99%" are >> > > big-time hypocrites. >> > > >> > > That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid back every dime of >> it, >> > > most people are decent human beings and would do the same. >> > > >> > > >> > > On a different argument, since you seem to know well enough how some >> of >> > > the 1% are doing immoral things, why don't you start by handing out >> names >> > > instead of talking air just as the "99%" crowd has been doing up till >> now? >> > > >> > > *Alan Greenspan, chairman of US Federal Reserve 1987- 2006 >> > > **Mervyn King, governor of the Bank of England >> > > **Bill Clinton, former US president* >> > > *Gordon Brown, prime minister* >> > > *George W Bush, former US president* >> > > *Senator Phil Gramm >> > > **Abby Cohen, Goldman Sachs chief US strategist >> > > **Kathleen Corbet, former CEO, Standard & Poor's >> > > **"Hank" Greenberg, AIG insurance group >> > > **Andy Hornby, former HBOS boss >> > > **Steve Crawshaw, former B&B boss >> > > **Adam Applegarth, former Northern Rock boss >> > > **Dick Fuld, Lehman Brothers chief executive >> > > **Ralph Cioffi and Matthew Tannin >> > > **Lewis Ranieri >> > > **Joseph Cassano, AIG Financial Products >> > > **Chuck Prince, former Citi boss >> > > **Angelo Mozilo, Countrywide Financial >> > > **Stan O'Neal, former boss of Merrill Lynch* >> > > *Jimmy Cayne, former Bear Stearns boss >> > > **Christopher Dodd, chairman, Senate banking committee (Democrat) >> > > **Geir Haarde, Icelandic prime minister >> > > **John Tiner, FSA chief executive, 2003-07* >> > > >> > > >> > > Oh yeah and lets not forget about this guy >> > > >> http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877337,00.html >> > > And while he is thankfully spending time in a prison cell, so many >> other >> > > names on this list go free, in fact a good chunk of them made a profit >> off >> > > of the disaster. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. >> > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html >> > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ >> >> > > Lets keep the discussion above the belt guys ok? > >
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