Lollery.
On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 08:33:10 -0700 (PDT), the entrepreneur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > James, > A nice manifesto indeed. But it no way does it > correlates to the one which I have written (or > probably modified). Maybe the sarcasm is not > noticeable, maybe you missed it, maybe because we are > different people altogether. > Well, I am here because I am anti-authoritative, a > negated personality (I hate to call it that because > the fundamental idea of it's emergence was this growth > of negative activity, this was root for pete's sake!). > Maybe you supressed your impulses, or are vehementaly > denying it. > Well its snonymous to rap songs, they are violent, > they are bad, but we listen, with that fetish look in > eyes. Maybe you listen to it too or maybe not, but > there always one vantage point where you blow your > steam, about your very inner conscience. > My conscience was the conscinence of this Manifesto, > it manifests, the "hummm..." sound some people will do > when they read it. It's for them. > If not for them, lest it's for me. > EULA might not cover it (how can you miss the pun > there ?), but the First Amendment will. hehe. > > Am I spared? > > -Regards > The Entrepreneur > --- James Tucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > A short piece of food for thought for all you > > hackers out there. This > > is not an attack on your livelihood this is merely a > > point for your > > consideration. > > > > It (the manifesto) does not explain why this > > information is relevant > > for me to read. or maybe I am unable to understand > > the part that does, > > if so please teach this willing student. > > > > Your manifesto seems largely similar to those > > written by many others. > > The attacks upon the security industry (which is > > required, whether the > > techs are good or not is a different matter) are > > largely unqualified. > > Please do not forget that businesses are formed due > > to the needs of > > other businesses or people and they serve others, > > this leads in a > > chain like manner back to the industries you would > > choose not to > > attack. > > > > Tell me how would you feel if you successfully stole > > enough money that > > you crashed an economy and power generation also > > stopped. An unreal > > scenario I know, but tone this back down to reality, > > and you realise > > that the things you are using are also directly > > related to the things > > you are trashing. In essence you are destroying your > > own world. > > > > It is business that makes computers, it is power > > that feeds the > > factories, it is these peoples money that pays the > > employees. The > > employees need health insurance if they want to > > survive, hospitals > > need their equipment, which in turn requires design, > > logistics for > > movement of physical items. The logistics companies > > need ISP's for > > their communications infrastructure, and banks to > > manage their money. > > The trail goes on. Do you not realise that many of > > the places you > > attack are merely part of the chain of business > > which supports the > > world that you love? > > > > A final point to further this, how far are you > > willing to go in > > causing people inconvenience? Every day people > > commit suicide due to > > stress caused to them in their business lives. > > Shutting down > > communications media, or any other business could > > have this effect (or > > at least contribute). Even furthermore there are > > situations where your > > actions may more directly affect the safety of > > individuals. Continuing > > to do so may then be compared to attempted murder. > > Still think you > > have any moral high ground? > > > > Finally the word manifesto means "a declaration of > > intent". I was > > unable to see any intended actions stated. In fact > > what I read more > > resembled a boast of money gained by actions already > > performed, and > > insult of lesser hackers and security professionals. > > For someone who > > should have a clear understanding of the need for > > accurate > > understanding of language (most important when the > > language is dealt > > with on a purely logical and explicit basis as with > > a computer system) > > you seem to not care so much about the accuracy of > > your written > > language. > > > > --- > > > > I am a student of security and this is my manifesto. > > I intend to have > > any hacker who tries to attack me for trying to > > provide an explanation > > of my point of view to them, thrown into jail for > > the longest sentence > > available under the laws of the country in which > > they committed their > > crime. This is my statement of intent, my manifesto, > > and it needs no > > end user license agreement or copyright. It is not > > unreasonable, it is > > not a declaration of war, it is a statement > > accompanying a point for > > discussion, nothing more. > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 05:45:19 -0700 (PDT), the > > entrepreneur > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > it says everything. > > > > > > > > > --- James Tucker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > why? > > > > > > > > On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 03:31:32 -0700 (PDT), the > > > > entrepreneur > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > The following was written shortly after my > > > > > placement... > > > > > > > > > > \/\The Conscience of a > > > > Hacker - > > > > > Redux /\/ > > > > > (c)CopyRight > > > > SuppaDuppaSecurity > > > > > Solutions. > > > > > *where do u wanna > > pee > > > > today* > > > > > by > > > > > > > > > > +++The > > > > Entrepreneur+++ > > > > > > > > > > Written on September > > 3, > > > > > 2004. > > > > > > > > > > Another one got bought today, it's all over > > the > > > > Wall > > > > > Street. "Teenager Floated A Big Secuirty > > Company > > > > ", > > > > > "Hacker Paid After Ethical Hacking Of A > > Bank..." > > > > > Damn kids. They're all money whores. > > > > > > > > > > But did you, in your C Grade Economics Degree > > and > > > > > l4am3 technobrain, ever take a look behind the > > > > eyes of > > > > > > > > > > this professional hacker? Did you ever wonder > > > > what > > > > > made him whored, what forces lured him, what > > may > > > > have > > > > > sold him? > > > > > I am a professional hacker, look at my > > > > bank > > > > > account... > > > > > > > > > > Mine is a world that begins with money... I'm > > > > richer > > > > > than most of the other kids, this crap they > > buy is > > > > so > > > > > darn cheap... > > > > > Damn underachiever. They're all money > > > > whores. > > > > > > > > > > I'm a junior security consultant. I've > > listened > > > > to > > > > > senior security professionals about how to be > > a > > > > good > > > > > hacker. > > > > > I spit at it. "No, Mr.NiceGuy-CISSP CISA CEH, > > I > > > > > didn't show my 0day. I sold it..." > > > > > Damn kid. Probably leeched it. > > They're > > > > all > > > > > money whores. > > > > > > > > > > I made a discovery today. I found a Venture > > > > > Capitalist. Wait a second, this is cool. It > > does > > > > > what I want it to. > > > > > If it makes a mistake, he doesnt notice > > because, > > > > he is > > > > > lame. He doesn't understand a crap of > > security, > > > === message truncated === > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! > http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
