On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:56:41 -0600, vord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [flame] > n3td3v/malformed, > > please think before you speak. ive already explained this to you more > than once. #hackphreak is no longer associated with a "group" and no > longer intends to be a channel dedicated primarily to matters of > hacking/phreaking technical discussion [we therefore accommodate > "lamers" who "don't know anything" and "give IRC/hackers/phreakers a > bad name" whatever the fuck that means -- suffice it to say, its not > primarily a help channel anymore.
Yeah, you said it. You had to move stance on it being a lamer channel, because no one with intelligence is on the channel anymore. You make out as if it was planned. The channel went down hill and you have no choice but to admit its a lamer channel, full of script kiddies, who consider themselves "real hackers". we talk to each other about whatever > the fuck we want and answer questions when and if we damn well feel > like it. we do not congregate there for your enjoyment, we do so for > our own. moreover, most of us deal with computers all day long and > don't particularly care to talk about them 24/7. I don't disagree with you on that. Lots of script kiddies are online 24/7. Even some of them work in computers as a job, then come home and go straight on the computer at home and spend all night on #hackphreak because they have no friends of social lives. > > oh hey, remind us why no one reads your forum even though you spam the > link on this list several times a day. :X Probably because its not a public forum and its not been online for very long, and probably because I keep deleteing and adding forum sections alot at the moment. Its not really ment to be a public forum with loads of authors. Its really a place for me to post stuff i'm doing and let various vendors read it. The majority of members are infact vendors from various e-mails i've sent them on a security issue, and i've welcomed them to read some posts i've put up on my forum they may be interested in. The link I post on this list and other sites is for the homepage, not the forum. You'll notice I don't firectly link to the forum. Its really the homepage I intend people to read more than the forum, so people who read my posts on mailing lists and online forums can get a taste about what I stand for and believe in. > as far as "real hackers" are concerned ... it takes one to know one; Are you calling me a hacker? If so, then you must be a hacker as well, as it takes a hacker to know a hacker. I'm not a hacker, if you read my homepage instead of going to the forum, you'll see I work against hackers, and report them whenever possible to vendors, to stop them being evil hax0rs. if there are real hackers anywhere its #hackphreak. if you > like, you can send all of your hacking/security related questions > directly to us from now on ... we would be glad to make you look like > an idiot on a regular basis as it would certainly be entertaining. i > will personally see to it that all of your questions are answered in a > timely fashion. I think you seriously don't know the difference between script kiddies and real hackers. hackphreak has no real hackers as you admitted at the start of this e-mail, the channel is full of lamers, who only do general chat. The only real thing you do have is real script kiddies, thats the only *real* thing the channel has. Yes a script kiddie can be online infront of computers 24/7 and also work in I.T during the day, thats pretty run-of-the-mill for a script kiddie, unless you are thinking more of the teenger script kiddie who goes to school and comes home at night infront of mom and dads computer, which is also a script kiddie. Yeah, I would glady come back on the channel and further make a fool of you, but at the moment its only my bot on it, relaying the transcript to me outside the channel, for me to read at any casual time i've got spare time too. If you hadn't noticed the majority of nicks on the channel are various peoples bots, rather than sados like you who are *actually* on the channel, thinking youre a real cool guy being an op. You only have say 20 real people on the channel out of say 100. Now whose the real mug, the saddo with no social life op(vord), or the guy with a bot keeping logs of keywords(n3td3v), to try and to stop script kiddies hacking the internet? My bot is joined by various other intelligence agency bots and other security researcher bots. You decide. > --v > #hackphreak/undernet > giving irc and real hackers/phreakers a bad name since 1998. I really feel sorry for you if you've been on the channel since 1998, you must be so proud. No friends, no social life for all those years. What a great thing. Yet again, the length of time you've been online or infront of computers does not make you anything less than a script kiddie. Real hackers are defined by skill. Not the length of time you've been online or on a IRC channel. Someone could be online 2 years and never step foot near IRC and out school you with knowledge ten times over, so stating 1998 means nothing as far as skills goes, if anything it just shows you up as a sado. We're watching the real script kiddies on #hackphreak for malicious agendas, not real hackers. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html