this is quite possibly the most ridiculous thing ive ever read. normally i would respond to it in more detail but i have received literally dozens of responses from members of this list who either sympathize with my position or have outright called you an idiot/lamer. i therefore see no need to defend myself or #hackphreak publicly when the public does not require it. they already know you're a moron, i dont need to beat a dead horse by making you look the fool over and over again.
--vord On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 22:07:26 +0000, n3td3v <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:56:41 -0600, vord <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [flame] > > > > n3td3v/malformed, > > > > please think before you speak. ive already explained this to you more > > than once. #hackphreak is no longer associated with a "group" and no > > longer intends to be a channel dedicated primarily to matters of > > hacking/phreaking technical discussion [we therefore accommodate > > "lamers" who "don't know anything" and "give IRC/hackers/phreakers a > > bad name" whatever the fuck that means -- suffice it to say, its not > > primarily a help channel anymore. > > Yeah, you said it. You had to move stance on it being a lamer channel, > because no one with intelligence is on the channel anymore. You make > out as if it was planned. The channel went down hill and you have no > choice but to admit its a lamer channel, full of script kiddies, who > consider themselves "real hackers". > > > we talk to each other about whatever > > the fuck we want and answer questions when and if we damn well feel > > like it. we do not congregate there for your enjoyment, we do so for > > our own. moreover, most of us deal with computers all day long and > > don't particularly care to talk about them 24/7. > > I don't disagree with you on that. Lots of script kiddies are online > 24/7. Even some of them work in computers as a job, then come home and > go straight on the computer at home and spend all night on #hackphreak > because they have no friends of social lives. > > > > > oh hey, remind us why no one reads your forum even though you spam the > > link on this list several times a day. :X > > Probably because its not a public forum and its not been online for > very long, and probably because I keep deleteing and adding forum > sections alot at the moment. > > Its not really ment to be a public forum with loads of authors. Its > really a place for me to post stuff i'm doing and let various vendors > read it. The majority of members are infact vendors from various > e-mails i've sent them on a security issue, and i've welcomed them to > read some posts i've put up on my forum they may be interested in. The > link I post on this list and other sites is for the homepage, not the > forum. You'll notice I don't firectly link to the forum. Its really > the homepage I intend people to read more than the forum, so people > who read my posts on mailing lists and online forums can get a taste > about what I stand for and believe in. > > > as far as "real hackers" are concerned ... it takes one to know one; > > Are you calling me a hacker? If so, then you must be a hacker as well, > as it takes a hacker to know a hacker. I'm not a hacker, if you read > my homepage instead of going to the forum, you'll see I work against > hackers, and report them whenever possible to vendors, to stop them > being evil hax0rs. > > if there are real hackers anywhere its #hackphreak. if you > > like, you can send all of your hacking/security related questions > > directly to us from now on ... we would be glad to make you look like > > an idiot on a regular basis as it would certainly be entertaining. i > > will personally see to it that all of your questions are answered in a > > timely fashion. > > I think you seriously don't know the difference between script kiddies > and real hackers. hackphreak has no real hackers as you admitted at > the start of this e-mail, the channel is full of lamers, who only do > general chat. The only real thing you do have is real script kiddies, > thats the only *real* thing the channel has. Yes a script kiddie can > be online infront of computers 24/7 and also work in I.T during the > day, thats pretty run-of-the-mill for a script kiddie, unless you are > thinking more of the teenger script kiddie who goes to school and > comes home at night infront of mom and dads computer, which is also a > script kiddie. > > Yeah, I would glady come back on the channel and further make a fool > of you, but at the moment its only my bot on it, relaying the > transcript to me outside the channel, for me to read at any casual > time i've got spare time too. If you hadn't noticed the majority of > nicks on the channel are various peoples bots, rather than sados like > you who are *actually* on the channel, thinking youre a real cool guy > being an op. You only have say 20 real people on the channel out of > say 100. > > Now whose the real mug, the saddo with no social life op(vord), or the > guy with a bot keeping logs of keywords(n3td3v), to try and to stop > script kiddies hacking the internet? My bot is joined by various other > intelligence agency bots and other security researcher bots. You > decide. > > > --v > > #hackphreak/undernet > > giving irc and real hackers/phreakers a bad name since 1998. > > I really feel sorry for you if you've been on the channel since 1998, > you must be so proud. No friends, no social life for all those years. > What a great thing. Yet again, the length of time you've been online > or infront of computers does not make you anything less than a script > kiddie. > > Real hackers are defined by skill. Not the length of time you've been > online or on a IRC channel. Someone could be online 2 years and never > step foot near IRC and out school you with knowledge ten times over, > so stating 1998 means nothing as far as skills goes, if anything it > just shows you up as a sado. > > We're watching the real script kiddies on #hackphreak for malicious > agendas, not real hackers. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html > _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
