On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, B Potter wrote:
On Oct 31, 2007, at 7:05 PM, Gadi Evron wrote:
I disagree. Even if it was for a martian computer and useless, AVs will
detect it for the sake of detecting it. Them not doing so is just another
example of how useless the AV *itself* is unfortunately becoming--more and
more.
agreed. I think the current AV situation is totally borked
I can sum it up in one sentence: OS X is the new Windows 98. Investing in
security ONLY as a last resort losses money, but everyone has to learn it
for themselves.
What?
I'm a pretty big mac fanboy, and I try not to bite on anti-mac stuff, but I
can't stay silent on this one. OS X in 2007 is nothing like Windows 98
either in risk to the enterprise or market positing wrt security. Windows 98
was installed on 95% of the PC's on the planet, was a monolithic operating
system with no separation between users/processes/data, and really had no
capability to even be secured if someone wanted to. OS X, for as much as all
us fan boys like to pretend it's a contender in the OS market, still only has
a fraction of the user population that Windows has. It's build on a BSD
platform and has all the security benefits therein. Apple has also done a
reasonably good job of providing better and better knobs to control all the
security features they have (both inherent BSD security and added on).
That said, Apple has written some lousy code, for sure, and some of their
security features aren't fully baked... but that is a far different situation
than Windows 98. In 1998, you really couldn't find a reference to "security"
on microsoft's website. For years, Apple has touted security as a
discriminator. At least Apple knew how to spell security when they developed
the OS.
Wait a year. So much unpatched, no visible process in place, new itw
attacks.
Mac users are en route to hell.
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