I remember that. I think Stu and Sunbelt learned a lot from those days. Stu had to jump though hoops to get off DNS block lists too at the time. I don't think the same thing has occurred since (has it?). That was 2002.
Several clients of mine did not even consider Sunbelt products at that time. Many would now. -----Original Message----- From: funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org [mailto:funsec-boun...@linuxbox.org] On Behalf Of Rich Kulawiec Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 8:30 AM To: funsec@linuxbox.org Subject: Re: [funsec] FTC files complaint against "Bogus ComputerScan Software" makers On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 06:10:10PM -0500, Alex Eckelberry wrote: > I don't know how many dealings you've had with the FTC, but we've had > a fair amount of interaction with their staff. Interesting. What have they had to say about "Spammin' Stu" Sjouwerman of Sunbelt Software, who not only had the audacity to spam (hardly uncommon) but did so in part in order to hawk a product called "IHateSpam"? (See redacted and de-HTML-ized spample below.) *You* seem like a capable guy, Alex, and as far as I can tell, your actions in the Julie Amero case were exemplary. But Sunbelt Software is permanently blacklisted here, along with every other so-called "anti-spam" vendor that used/uses spam -- about two dozen so far. Those companies who are deliberately making the spam problem worse in order to profit don't belong on the Internet. ---Rsk > Received: from w2knews.com ([207.90.33.18]) > by XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX with SMTP id XXXXXXXXXXXX > for <xxxxxx...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>; Wed, 26 Jun 2002 08:13:22 -0400 > (EDT) > Message-Id: <xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx...@w2knews.com> > Subject: WinXPnews: Sick & Tired Of Spam? > From: "WinXPnews" <do_not_re...@bounce.winxpnews.com> > To: xxxx...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [...] > > SPONSOR: iHateSpam > > [...] > > Finally, a solution to block all that spam! Had enough of porn, bogus > business offers and viagra ads in your mailbox? This week, Sunbelt > Software will release iHateSpam. It quarantines spam and has powerful > features like adding your own anti-spam rules and friends and enemies > lists. HateSpam agressively filters unsolicited commercial emails out > of your inbox, is extremely easy to set up and updates itself > automatically. Stay tuned for the announcement later this week! Visit > http://www.winxpnews.com/rd/rd.cfm?id=XXXXXXXXXX-iHateSpam&mid=XXXXXXX > XXXX > for more information. > > [...] _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
