I believe in climate change, I even believe at least some of it is man made.
I just am unconvinced it's as terrible a thing as everyone's making it out to be. I'm absolutely convinced that the mooted solutions are awful, and unlikely to be effective. I'm also completely distrustful of the crowd pushing for those solutions, given their track record (banning DDT leading to millions more Malaria cases every year as their seminal act). However, I am totally in favor of getting off of Oil, for economic and political security reasons. Let's build lots of nuclear reactors, and go to electric cars and delivery vans, with bio-diesel for heavy carriage, off road, boats, and work trucks/towing. -----Original Message----- From: Alex Eckelberry [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:14 PM To: Tomas L. Byrnes; Gadi Evron; funsec Subject: RE: [funsec] global warming is b/s? nice hatchet job I am perhaps in the minority on this list in that I actually believe in global climate change/warming. That's not to say that I am not aware of (and concerned about) the other agendas of some of the environmental groups out there (population control, etc.). However, not worth getting into a debate about it -- there's plenty of that going on out there. But I'm going to sit on the sidelines and see if this thread beats out either guns or twitter in posts. Will be interesting to watch. Alex -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Tomas L. Byrnes Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 5:54 PM To: Gadi Evron; funsec Subject: Re: [funsec] global warming is b/s? nice hatchet job The water temp here in San Diego remains under 68F, and last anyone checked, we're about where we were when Columbus sailed for the new world, which is when the cooling towards the "little ice age" started. Personally, I'd like a planet more along the lines of the Cambrian climate. Then most people wouldn't live in cold places where fruits and vegetables don't grow. Take a look in the mirror, except for Neanderthal half breeds like Gadi and myself, there's not enough hair on that body to stay warm anywhere except the tropics. However, for SECURITY reasons, we need to stop using OIL, because the biggest threat to civilization are the people it enriches. Besides, for most types of driving, electric motors are faster, thanks to having full torque @ 0 RPM and a flat curve. >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >On Behalf Of Gadi Evron >Sent: Saturday, July 11, 2009 9:02 AM >To: funsec >Subject: [funsec] global warming is b/s? nice hatchet job > >wow, just... wow. Even if this is real it is a master-piece of how to >discredit, write fake and unsubstantiated: > >http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/162241/17_200_Scientists_Dispute_ G >lobal_Warming > > > >-- >Gadi Evron, >[email protected]. > >Blog: http://gevron.livejournal.com/ >_______________________________________________ >debate mailing list >[email protected] >http://whitestar.linuxbox.org/mailman/listinfo/debate > >_______________________________________________ >Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. >https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec >Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.12/2233 - Release Date: 07/12/09 08:20:00 _______________________________________________ Fun and Misc security discussion for OT posts. https://linuxbox.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/funsec Note: funsec is a public and open mailing list.
